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Modulous
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Message 213 of 527 (579399)
09-04-2010 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by ICdesign
09-04-2010 10:47 AM


colourblind...
If we had such a smooth blend from one kind to another that this law was not violated then we wouldn't even be able to tell one kind from another.
400THz his the frequency of red light. There is a smhoth transition (the smoothest transition physically possible, in fact) from red to violet at 790THz.
Either
a) You cannot tell one colour from another
b) You can tell me where the line between colours definitely is and justify why it is there and not 100mHz less.
Maybe I missed it but did anyone reference a web-site that is rich with pictures of the evolution of the skeletal system after fish hit the land? I'm not interested in broad assertions.
Not a fan of doing your hard work for you. Why not check out
Panderichthys
Sauripterus
Elginerpeton
Tiktaalik
Obruchevichthys
Hynerpeton
Densignathus rowei
Ichthyostega
Acanthostega
Pederpes finneyae
Amniator
Or perhaps read some paleontology papers. It is rare to find all the information you want all in one place, even in the age of information so you'll have to do some work. Probably take you at least a few years to learn the skills to research and comprehend the raw evidence, I'm afraid.
Or you could look to the people that have already spent the time doing all of that and see what they say about it all.
Or alternatively you could assume that you are more competent in the subject than those that have trained for years upon years and suggest that 'common sense' trumps them. In which case, I look forward to seeing your 'common sense' self-built house. Your 'common sense' plumbing, 'common sense' electrical wiring and seeing you perform 'common sense' surgery on your loved ones.

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Modulous
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Message 236 of 527 (579724)
09-05-2010 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by Bolder-dash
09-04-2010 10:01 PM


Re: colourblind...
I am trying to figure out what your color analogy has to do with anything regarding evolution?
The objection to evolution was that if there was a smooth transition between categories then there'd be no different categories. I used colours to show that this principle is false.
Is there something applicable between our photo receptors perception of colors, what our brains call things that look slightly similar, and what is the difference between species?
There is one similarity: There are no objective 'lines' separating living things or colours. Any line drawing may be done with reasons - but an equally good argument could be made for drawing a line in a slightly different place.

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Modulous
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Message 326 of 527 (586121)
10-11-2010 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 325 by barbara
10-11-2010 9:50 AM


Re: Entropy
How does entropy work in evolution?
Living and reproducing is not 100% efficient work, thus if one does these things, it results in a net increase of entropy in the universe.

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Modulous
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Message 332 of 527 (586147)
10-11-2010 2:00 PM
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10-11-2010 1:21 PM


Re: Entropy
Actually, any work is not 100% efficient resulting in a net increase of entropy in the universe, right? I mean, entropy is not specific to living organisms.
Correct, but the context of the question was specific to living organisms.

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