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Topic: Herbal supplements in US commonly have traces of contaminants
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 14 of 102 (579118)
09-03-2010 5:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 13 by Dogmafood
09-03-2010 5:14 PM
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Information should be increased and regulation decreased. Why?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 21 of 102 (579130)
09-03-2010 5:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 19 by Dogmafood
09-03-2010 5:39 PM
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Because it increases freedom and self dependency and it reduces bureaucracy and corruption. HUH? I'm sorry but I simply do not see that at all.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 31 of 102 (579150)
09-03-2010 6:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 25 by Dogmafood
09-03-2010 5:48 PM
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Correct. I do not see how less regulation equals more freedom. Nor do I see bureaucracy as a negative. The US is about the only developed nation, if we still have that standing, that does not regulate herbals. They are not even covered under "Truth in Advertising Laws". Since in the US there really is no way to get adequate information about the contents or purity of herbal products, I believe the ONLY reasonable solution is to have some governmental oversight. Of course, the US is also the only developed country without universal health care, an adequate safety net, a way to identify who is a citizen, ubiquitous communications, education standards and so many other things that are just taken for granted in most developed countries.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 33 of 102 (579193)
09-03-2010 7:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 32 by Dogmafood
09-03-2010 7:34 PM
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You need to realize that the US does not have any controls over what herbals can be sold, what they contain, how they are advertised, whether or not they are even the herbs they are sold as.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 36 of 102 (579201)
09-03-2010 7:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 35 by Dogmafood
09-03-2010 7:53 PM
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And how do you get the folk selling the herbals to publish accurate information without regulations? AbE: Tune into US based Christian radio sometime. All you hear is crap being sold based on testimony. Edited by jar, : Testify Brother, Testify.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 38 of 102 (579211)
09-03-2010 8:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 37 by Dogmafood
09-03-2010 8:09 PM
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I'm sorry but I have very little faith that profits or building a loyal customer base have anything to do with the reality of the product, its contents or claims made about the product. AbE: and I have NO faith whatsoever in the Free Market. Edited by jar, : AbE
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 45 of 102 (579237)
09-03-2010 9:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 44 by Dogmafood
09-03-2010 9:21 PM
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I am saying that the individual should be more responsible for the things they eat and the govt should help them make those decisions by providing them with information. Not by telling them what they should do. I know of no regulations that tell people what they should do.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 51 of 102 (579254)
09-03-2010 10:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 50 by Buzsaw
09-03-2010 10:36 PM
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Re: Regulate Pharms, Not Herbals
Buz writes: How can you protect yourself if you can't buy and sell freely the safe naturals because the producers are regulated out of business? Where is there any evidence that producers would be regulated out of business?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 55 of 102 (579267)
09-03-2010 11:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 54 by Buzsaw
09-03-2010 11:15 PM
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Re: Regulate Pharms, Not Herbals
Sorry Buz but I see no evidence in that, just a lots of innuendo. Where is there any evidence that producers would be put out of business by regulations? You do know that herbals are sold in most developed countries EVEN THOUGH they are regulated? Edited by jar, : hit key too soon.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 69 of 102 (579346)
09-04-2010 10:02 AM
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Reply to: Message 58 by Buzsaw
09-03-2010 11:42 PM
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Buz writes: Most of the comanies we buy from use organically grown ingredients. How do you know?
Buz writes: The synthetics likely are more prone to have traces of contaminants. Why?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 75 of 102 (579438)
09-04-2010 4:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 74 by Buzsaw
09-04-2010 4:31 PM
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So you don't know. You simply take their word.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 80 of 102 (579503)
09-04-2010 10:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 79 by Buzsaw
09-04-2010 10:43 PM
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Re: One man's herb
Good thing it is just the Republicans and Tea Party crowd that seem to want to regulate what happens in the bedroom. Of course as usual, that has NOTHING to do with the topic. By the way, there is a thread where you can bring any evidence you think might support the Biblical Exodus myth.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 83 of 102 (579522)
09-04-2010 11:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 82 by Buzsaw
09-04-2010 11:03 PM
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Re: One man's herb
Buz writes: Nonsense! Most of our herbals have no chemicals in them. Sorry Buz but that is not just false, it is absurdly false even when considering Homeopathy. Of course with Homeopathy it would be true to say that it contains none of the chemicals they claim are in it.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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