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nator
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Message 5 of 110 (578649)
09-02-2010 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by archaeologist
09-02-2010 7:14 AM


it would be if schools were supportive and did not teach things that were contrary to the children's beliefs or the beliefs of their parents.

So, do you suggest segregating all children into schools based upon compatibility of religious beliefs? That might be difficult, because even within single congregations, some parents might differ in their beliefs.

i grew up when there was bible reading and prayer in pubic schools and it made the institution a better place. no one complained as people knew it was something they endured but it certainly kept the violence, and other sins down so children could actually learn in class.

How do you know it was the bible reading and not other factors that kept the violence down? What was the class size when you were in school? How mixed culturally was your community? How well-funded was your school district? Were two incomes or just one required to make ends meet back then?

Also, imagine that you lived in a predominantly Muslim area, so you had to "endure" being made to pray towards Mecca several times during the school year. Would that be acceptable to you or your parents? If not, why would you require people of other religions to endure Christian prayers in public school?

He even let everyone know about it.

Well no, he didn't.

i would reccommend only 3 translations one should use, KJV, NIV, NASB to get the correct information.

And we should take your advice in this matter why, exactly? You're just a fallable person who believes he knows the mind of God, just like thousands of other people who contradict you.

it was the pledge of allegience not a christian prayer

Er, since when do people say the pledge of allegience standing in the circle with their heads bowed?

because bad behavior isn't limited to the church and home and not all homes teach true morality or christian beliefs, for that matter nor do some churches.

Teaching good behavior and morals has nothing to do with Christianity. Being a christian doesn't make people better behaved or more moral. Having a good moral code and following it is what results in good behavior, and people can easily get that without any kind of religion.

We have 2000 years of moral philosophy that doesn't mention Christianity or sin at all, you know.

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nator
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Message 19 of 110 (578956)
09-03-2010 7:52 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by ICANT
09-02-2010 4:15 PM


Re: Religion in Schools
God did set the rules and we can not change them.

Nor can we know we know them.

All we have are fallible human assertions of what some of them believe god's rules to be, with no way to check which ones are right.

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