I'd like to put this thread on an evidence-based footing. I've only read up to your Message 138 so far, so if you haven't already, please summarize the nature of the evidence found at Nuweiba, tell us where it is right now, and provide supporting links and/or references.
Also, most of your effort in this thread seems to be focused on explaining why there is no evidence for the Exodus. I'd like to shift the focus to the actual evidence that does exist.
The request was to shift the focus of discussion back to the evidence, not to summarize all the evidence presented thus far in the thread. The only specific request for evidence I made concerned a chariot wheel.
I'm here simply to effect an increased focus on evidence. The question isn't whether you are standing by the argument, but whether the evidence is standing by you. Arabia Petraea was the name Rome gave to their Arabian province. It refers to that part of Arabia ruled from Petra, an ancient city in what is now Jordan. This is from the Wikipedia article on Petra:
In 106 CE, when Cornelius Palma was governor of Syria, that part of Arabia under the rule of Petra was absorbed into the Roman Empire as part of Arabia Petraea, becoming capital.
In other words, Arabia Petraea was the portion of Arabia that became part of the Roman Empire.
This information I've just provided should not be considered final, and I'm not trying to join the discussion. This is just to illustrate that instead of just insisting that you're not giving up your position you should instead be seeking evidence that supports it.
Third, you have presented NO corroborating evidence no matter how many times you claim it.
Fourth, LoL. I would not expect an admission of it from any of you people, no matter how much evidence I cited for anything evidencing the supernatural.
Buz, please reply to the substance of Jar's post, which argued that Arabia Petraea is one of three regions of Arabia, and therefore is part of Arabia.
You argued in Message 207 that because, "The Biblical record says Sinai is in Arabia," and that because the Sinai Peninsula is not in Arabia, that therefore the identification of the Mt. Sinai on the Sinai Peninsula could not be correct. There are a lot of good arguments for locating Mt. Sinai outside the Sinai Peninsula and a good deal of scholarship agrees with you, but the argument that the Sinai Peninsula was not considered part of Arabia at the time appears to be seriously flawed and is the one being challenged. If you have evidence supporting your position in the form of maps or excerpts then please present it.
It's not the wheel. It's wheel and axle formS encased with coral. These forms are lying on an underwater field which is fairly void of much else such as rocks, etc. There is one which is notable in that it appears to be an upright axle with a wheel shaped form. The form resembles a pedestal table.
Could you please provide the following information about the chariot wheel:
Name or names of those experts who examined the chariot wheel.
The analytical information gathered by the expert or experts.
Thus he falsified it as a possibility, leaving the Nuweiba site being more shallow and having the corroborating evidence supportive to the Biblical record.
Regarding corroborating evidence for the Biblical flood at the Nuweiba site, let me repeat that I would like all corroborating evidence related to the chariot wheels at that site placed in a single message, specifically:
Photographs of the chariot wheels.
Videos of the chariot wheels (links are okay).
Current location (museum, laboratory, etc.) of any chariot wheels recovered from the sea floor.
Expert's names and analyses indicating that they're chariot wheels and not something else, such as natural formations, coral-encrusted pleasure boat steering wheels, etc.
If expert analyses indicate these are ancient chariot wheels, then provide expert's names and analyses indicating the chariot wheels are from the appropriate period and region.
Re: Taking Chariots down the wall of the Grand Canyon
You're assuming that the mighty rush of water would have caused no erosion of a larger delta from the wadi canyon and that nothing changed during the event and over the millennia since the event from shipping and currents, earth quakes etc. Isn't the severe drop off in depth at the end of the delta unusual for deltas?
Before discussing the mechanisms by which the land bridge could have disappeared, please present evidence that the land bridge was ever there in the first place.
How many times do I have to repeat that we're not debating about a wheel. The video photographed evidence shows multiple wheel shaped and axle shaped forms as well as other unusual coral forms in a rather unusual location for coral.
If you have evidence that the objects in the photographs are Egyptian chariot wheels from the 18th dynasty, then please present it.