Did the Biblical Exodus ever happen?

You keep making that claim but then never provide any support for that assertion.Look at Message 92.It includes the text from the story as well as a map of the area. The story says that they traveled to the EDGE of the desert. It does not say they traveled through the desert, across the desert, but to the edge of the desert.The map is useful since you can look at the terrain or even get a satellite view so you can see "the edge of the desert". And guess what? That is the area where there are also a series of lakes that could act as a barrier.The clear text places them there, not all the way across the Sinai Peninsula and halfway down the Gulf of Aqaba.

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I guess it is a good thing that I never claimed that the Romans built highways in Moses time.And if you actually read what I post you will find that I said the Gulf of Aqaba itself was the highway during the period when the Exodus supposedly happened.Finally, you have presented NO corroborating evidence that has stood up to examination.The alleged "Altar of the Golden Calf" turned out to be misrepresentation, withholding data and in fact a fairly common example of rock drawing that likely dates to thousands of years before the time of the alleged Exodus. See Message 25There is no evidence of any Chariot Wheels. See "Chariot Wheels" In the Red Sea.The split Rock does not show signs of stream flow and is simply a common weathered rock. See Message 28The column is most likely much later from the Roman period.And the Bible story places the event at the very edge of the Sinai Peninsula. See Message 92Now if you have some supporting or corroborating evidence, this is your chance to present it.

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Great!When will you present the corroboration?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

A bump for dennis when he returns.dennis, read through this thread because it addresses most of the crap posted on those Exodus sites you used.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Here is the place where you can try to support your assertion that the Biblical Exodus happened.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Buz, have you ever even read the Bible?

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11 The LORD said to Moses, 12 I have heard the grumbling of the Israelites. Tell them, ‘At twilight you will eat meat, and in the morning you will be filled with bread. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God.’

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13 That evening quail came and covered the camp, and in the morning there was a layer of dew around the camp.

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Remember that this is all BEFORE they are given any laws, before they are even a people.In addition, burial of wastes would have preserved the evidence, ask any archeologist how much they learn from midden. Nonsense Buz. I am accountable to a higher power, the same one that will someday judge YOU, yet you continue to repeat falsehoods.You provided NO corroborating evidence that stood up to even a cursory examination.

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Huh?Why?And if they were, it would leave even more evidence.In addition, burial of wastes would have preserved the evidence, ask any archeologist how much they learn from midden.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Get serious Buz.How many people were involved in the trek?How many cattle Buz?How long did they stay at Kadesh?Have you every read the Bible?

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Perfect diet?Have you ever read the Bible?Where does it say they had the perfect diet.

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Again Buz, have you ever read the Bible?They did not have one food source. They hated manna. They were thrilled when they finally got other food to eat. Claims of likely this and likely that are pointless fantasy on your part.This is a Science forum Buz. If you are going to make an assertion you need to be able to back it up with more than Buz's fantasies.

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Buz, have you ever even read the Bible?

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11 The LORD said to Moses, 12 I have heard the grumbling of the Israelites. Tell them, ‘At twilight you will eat meat, and in the morning you will be filled with bread. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God.’

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13 That evening quail came and covered the camp, and in the morning there was a layer of dew around the camp.

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Buz, did you say ... Again, the issue is evidence.Do you have ANY evidence that might show that the Biblical Exodus ever happened?

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Understand that wheel and axle forms are never wheels or axles until they are recovered and tested and those tests reviewed and verified.Understand that even if a chariot wheel is found it is not support for the Biblical Exodus unless it can be identified as belonging to a specific Pharaoh's army, a specific Pharaoh who then died during the chase of the no longer fleeing Israelites.

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Again Buz, I have to wonder if you have ever read the Bible or even this thread.That was dealt with way back in Message 77 where I included the passage from the Exodus 14.

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1 Then the LORD said to Moses, 2 "Tell the Israelites to turn back and encamp near Pi Hahiroth, between Migdol and the sea. They are to encamp by the sea, directly opposite Baal Zephon. 3 Pharaoh will think, 'The Israelites are wandering around the land in confusion, hemmed in by the desert.' 4 And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and he will pursue them. But I will gain glory for myself through Pharaoh and all his army, and the Egyptians will know that I am the LORD." So the Israelites did this.

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5 When the king of Egypt was told that the people had fled, Pharaoh and his officials changed their minds about them and said, "What have we done? We have let the Israelites go and have lost their services!" 6 So he had his chariot made ready and took his army with him. 7 He took six hundred of the best chariots, along with all the other chariots of Egypt, with officers over all of them. 8 The LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, so that he pursued the Israelites, who were marching out boldly. 9 The Egyptiansall Pharaoh's horses and chariots, horsemen and troops pursued the Israelites and overtook them as they camped by the sea near Pi Hahiroth, opposite Baal Zephon.

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There is NOTHING in it that suggests there are geological features holding the Israelites up. In fact it totally refutes the idea that it was geography slowing them down, rather it is God that steps in and tells them to stop and wait for Pharaoh. There is no mention of some wadi or any geographic restrictions.Let's finally deal with this and then address all the rest of your so called ducks in order.

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Let's look at that evidence Buz, it was covered in Message 28 and in Message 36.In Message 36 I provided a link to what water flow eroded rocks look like. They are rounded. They have been tumbled. There are no images of water eroded rocks at Horeb.In addition, the rock claimed as the rock at Horeb is not at all unusual and I provided many links to similar split rock formations from all over the world.The readers can judge on their own.

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Sheesh Buz, I even quoted the whole passage in the very post you are replying to.In the fable they do not escape because ... wait for it ... wait for it ...God tells them to turn back so that he can show off to the Egyptians.

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1 Then the LORD said to Moses, 2 "Tell the Israelites to turn back and encamp near Pi Hahiroth, between Migdol and the sea. They are to encamp by the sea, directly opposite Baal Zephon. 3 Pharaoh will think, 'The Israelites are wandering around the land in confusion, hemmed in by the desert.' 4 And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and he will pursue them. But I will gain glory for myself through Pharaoh and all his army, and the Egyptians will know that I am the LORD." So the Israelites did this.

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5 When the king of Egypt was told that the people had fled, Pharaoh and his officials changed their minds about them and said, "What have we done? We have let the Israelites go and have lost their services!" 6 So he had his chariot made ready and took his army with him. 7 He took six hundred of the best chariots, along with all the other chariots of Egypt, with officers over all of them. 8 The LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, so that he pursued the Israelites, who were marching out boldly. 9 The Egyptiansall Pharaoh's horses and chariots, horsemen and troopspursued the Israelites and overtook them as they camped by the sea near Pi Hahiroth, opposite Baal Zephon.

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Hemmed in by the desert Buz.No wadi. No mention of some pass. Room for more than 600 chariots to maneuver.

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