Did the Biblical Exodus ever happen?

Yes. Thank you Asgara. I forgot that important fact. This was at Kadesh Barnea.There is some debate about the location of Kadesh, but most reliable sources like Josephus etc believe that Kadesh was Petra where there was good water and protection.This location has been occupied by other cultures which have obliterated any evidence of of the Israelites over the millenia.

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Jar, any one food as the source of staple for a lengthy period sustaining a multitude in the wilderness had to be the perfect food. Go figure.Jehovah creator/designer of man's body likely designed the manna so as to provide all of the vitamins, minerals, etc needful to keep the folks healthy. Moses, for example did fine on it dying at 120 years.

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But most would have been buried at Kadish which became occupied by other cultures over the millenia. What trace of the Israelite dead would you expect to be identifiable today? Note the link on that matter.

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There you go, ringo. Where were you when the Exodus threads were debated? Corroborating evidence was cited on both sides of the crossing, including the large beach in a topography where escape would be impossible without the crossing of the sea, the unusual split rock, the blacked top mountain, the Biblical identification of Midian in Arabia as location of Mt Sinai, the bull inscriptions and large plain below the mountain suitable for the people etc.The wheels were not here and there, perse. They were at the most shallow area of the Sea and at a beach large enough for a large multitude at the precise area where the other corroborating evidence exists.It's all compatible with the Biblical record. The Biblial record and some other study research is what led Wyatt, the pioneer to that location.

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I didn't say it was. I said it was their staple for a lengthy period of time.

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Other chariot wheels having no corroborating evidence or relevance to the Exodus are strawmen, given my privious messages.How about posting something sensible, Ringo. You're really scraping the bottom here.

The ones at Nuweiba. The ones in the midst of the corroborating evidence, that secularist marine scientists are reticent to research and falsify, concerned that they will confirm them to be valid.

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Eh, this thread is not about the flood. It's about something a whole lot more falsifiable. It's of significant archeological data relevant to ancient history as things like the pyramids, etc. It has to do with researching ancient Egypt and the whole region which has become so prevalent on the world scene.Believe me, if it had nothing to do with supporting the Biblical record, Ballard and others would be on it like piranha fish on a chunk of steak.

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Bluescat, did you read the title of the message to which you responded. See that word corroborate? That means there's other evidence supportive to the Exodus relating the wheels in the sea.

Since Admin has requested that the debate focus on the evidence, I am reviewing the thread, page by page to revisit the messages pertaining to evidence. I am compiling some additional material pertaining to some of these evidence related messages.Please bear with me as this will take some time before proceeding in the debate.

I plan to get to the wheels, but since an important factor is the corroborating evidence which is supportive to the wheel like forms being wheels and makes it all compatible with the Biblical account of the Exodus, I want to make some important additional points about some of the supportive evidences. In my busy life it may take some time before I'm ready to proceed.The consensus among my counterparts in this debate incessantly insist that I have never produced any evidence whatsoever, including the claimed corroborative evidence. Therefore I find it necessary to attempt to put these charges to rest.Abe: LOL, given the mindset of the Exodus skeptics Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted.

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PaulK, none of it has yet been empirically refuted. It's been debated, the secularist hoard, in chorus, vs the one citing the existing, ducks in a row, corroborated evidence. Give me some time and we'll revisit some of that evidence with particular pertinent points, corroborating the wheel & axel forms to be indeed chariot wheels of the Biblical Exodus.

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But Lennart Moller, Swedish marine biologist scientist deemed Wyatt's evidence credible enough to spend his time and resources with his marine exploratory marine vessel equipped with suitable cameras etc for researching the site. He is the one who featured the Exodus Video and wrote the Exodus Case book.Moller's purpose was not to self promote and make spectacular announcements.There was also a woman scientist named in the Video (forgot name) who did some research on the Saudi side of the crossing, also considering the discovery to be valid. I'll work on some more info relative to these points. Some of the dates have been questioned and debated due to the tendency of Pharaohs to skew the dates and obliterate info which might damage their own reputation. It also behooved Egypt to conceal, as much as possible, the devastation of Egypt's defense military so as not to embolden enemy nations to attack.

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Non-existent or made up?

Not only do these ducks exist, but they're all lined up in the order that they need to be to support the Biblical record.There was mention of an Oasis in the wilderness which there is. There is also a column which may or may not be evidence. on the beach. The record mentions Moses erecting something of that nature.Now, Percy, whether or not you want to acknowledge that evidence, how can you alleged that creationist supportive evidence is either non-existent or made up?One problem with research in the region is that the Islamic Saudi Arabia has a vested interest in undermining the Biblical record. Researchers are forbidden access to the mountain and the region near it. I understand that areas are fenced off allowing no access.I believe it would not be legal to remove artifacts from the sea floor due to the Egyptians and Saudis but am not sure how that works or who has sovereignty over the sea borders.One problem with removing the wheel evidence would be keeping it intact for removal and analysis.Jar is questioning the waterflow evidence at the split rock. I will be addressing this objection. Edited by Buzsaw, : Neatly line up ducks.

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In Message 36 Jar linked an example of a water brook showing assorted smooth rocks. Then he linked a view of the what is acclaimed to be waterflow evidence at the base of the Midian split rock.Jar alleges that the rocks at the base of the Midian rock should resemble those in his link.Jar alleges that the Midian rock is not water flow evidence but eroded rock pieces which have fallen in place from the large formation.Take a good look at the Midian waterflow. Notice how even and smoothed the bed of the flow is going from inside the split nice and evenly spread all of the length of what is visible in the photo. This is indicative of a stream which smothened out this stream bed.Rock pieces falling from the large formation would have been piled up randomly where they fell.Jar claims that the rocks should resemble his example of a brook bed. This is nonsense, for the reason the brook rocks would have been washed from the soil in the bed where the water flowed and washed them. They would have been assorted colors and types of rockes.The water flow from the formation would have been fragments of the large formation that fell and gushed in place when Moses struck the rock and it was broken. The water would have smothened the bed along just as it appears. The rocks would have been of one color and type, having come from the once large single rock.How long that flow lasted is unknown. Likely it was not long enough to smothen out the fragments as Jar alleges they should be, similar to his example.

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Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.