Did the Biblical Exodus ever happen?

Fair enough, Coyote. We're scrutinizing the Exodus here in this thread. How does the scientific method falsify the Exodus?The Exodus evidence corroborates the reliability of the Biblical record which alleges that Noah's flood happened.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

That video is a waste of time. All it shows is a recreation of what Moller expected to find.

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

You're not making a lot of sense, Ringo. I'm sure he was aware of the pioneer work that had been done by Wyatt, Fassold and others. He did fully expect to find evidence there. Did your eyes and mind hone in on that phenomenal, in tact, axle and wheel table like form in the video? If so, tell the folks why or why not it appeared to be in the shape of an axle and wheels.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

It's called anvil and table coral Buz, quite common.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

That's the problem right there!The exodus evidence so far is not convincing to anyone who is not already a true believer. On its own it is less than flimsy, while being contradicted by a lot of other evidence.That is nothing with which to support the idea of a global flood ca. 4,350 years ago.And the idea of a global flood ca. 4,350 years ago has been thoroughly falsified, starting just about 200 years ago.You can't use one of these to bolster the case for the other. You need real evidence if you are going to get anywhere.And from what I know of archaeology and how it works, I don't think the evidence is there. If it was we would all be able to find it in the peer-reviewed literature. You would be able to find it in reputable journals and provide us citations and links and we would be able to see the actual evidence as described and interpreted by professional archaeologists. So far that evidence is not there.As an aside: you'd be amazed at what archaeologists can do with the tools provided to us by the various physical sciences. Metal can be analyzed and compared to known specimens. That might give approximate age and origin. Pollen and other floral remains can be analyzed and that can give some indication of climate and physiographic setting. Plant and animal proteins can be extracted from stones and analyzed! And that's just a start. If a real archaeologist was working on this exodus project, and had materials to analyze, you'd have data of some kind to work with. Just grainy pictures that might be any of several things is not legitimate evidence.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Did your eyes and mind fail to notice the label that said "Re-creation" at about 8:20? Because it was drawn to look that way.

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

Could you please provide the following information about the chariot wheel:

• Photographs.
• Current location.
• Name or names of those experts who examined the chariot wheel.
• The analytical information gathered by the expert or experts.

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Did you view the short clip which I linked? It shows photography of the various wheel shaped coral forms, the most notable table shaped one in particular. I do not have the other information.As I understand the scientific method, some would involve lab work and other not, depending on what one is doing.As Lennart Mollar explained, likely what is left after thousands of years is the coral forms. To break into those might destroy them. I'm not sure what could be lab analyzed and what the legality would be to remove them.I believe Ron Wyatt claims to have removed a wheel. He says he lost it, but I surmise that that was to keep off the legal hot seat, if indeed he did remove it.The researched corroborating visible evidence, I see as part of the
scientific method.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

You're scraping the bottom, Ringo. Anyone can see the recreated enhancement is deliberate so as to help visualize what formed the coral formations.These sort of silly responses hardly warrant an answer. Don't expect a response from some of them.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

The point is that there is nothing but the enhancement. There is no indication that Moller actually found anything inside the coral formation. There is nothing in that video except a flight of fancy.

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

One point, even if it is a wheel, why would it show that it was from a chariot from Pharoah's Army? It could have easily belonged to someone else's chariot, that came off and the driver, so incensed, threw the thing in the sea.

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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

Buzz, how about considering my Message 350?You don't get to ignore posts that you don't like, and just pretend they aren't there.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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You're scraping the bottom, Ringo. Anyone can see the recreated enhancement is deliberate so as to help visualize what formed the coral formations.

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Anyone can see that the "enhancement" shows what Moller and Wyatt SAY formed it. We've yet to see much in the way of evidence that they are correct. Pointing out that fact is hardly "scraping the bottom"The video shows almost nothing, just more of the same images. There is nothing to judge the size of the formation. There is no mention of the species of coral (surely if Moller really has expertise in marine biology revealing that would be an easy and simply contribution he could make). If there is or was a wheel inside there is nothing at all to indicate where it came from, what it was made of, how long it has been there...In short we still do not have a decent case for the Exodus.

In other words, you can't provide a single thing Admin asked for. And you wonder why we doubt your "evidence".

What are the dimensions of the various coral formations that are alleged to be wheels and/or axles? Do they conform to the dimensions of chariots from the appropriate time period?

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