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Topic: Did the Biblical Exodus ever happen?
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Buzsaw
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Message 106 of 657 (598933)
01-04-2011 10:18 AM
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Reply to: Message 20 by Huntard
09-07-2010 9:06 AM
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Re: Artifact Evidence, Etc
Huntard writes: Buzsaw writes: After over three millenniums, what lamb bones left on the ground would you expect to find? Why should pottery be found? left by a relative fast moving troop of people in flight. What should you expect to find from nomads constantly on the move? From 1 to 2 million people on the move? A lot of evidence, that's what I'd expect. Other factors regarding traces: They had one food; manna from the sky which lasted 24 hours for each serving. No need for food production or preservation etc. No plows or other implements were needed. Jewish law required the burial of human waste etc. What evidence would you expect? I cited corroborating evidence in the region relating to the beach crossing. You all simply waived them all off, repeating the lie that I've provided no evidence. That's the way it goes with you people who have a vested interest in non-accountability to a higher power.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.
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jar
Member (Idle past 140 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 107 of 657 (598935)
01-04-2011 10:29 AM
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Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
01-04-2011 10:18 AM
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Re: Artifact Evidence, Etc
Buz writes: Other factors regarding traces: They had one food; manna from the sky which lasted 24 hours for each serving. No need for food production or preservation etc. No plows or other implements were needed. Jewish law required the burial of human waste etc. Buz, have you ever even read the Bible?
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11 The LORD said to Moses, 12 I have heard the grumbling of the Israelites. Tell them, ‘At twilight you will eat meat, and in the morning you will be filled with bread. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God.’ 13 That evening quail came and covered the camp, and in the morning there was a layer of dew around the camp.
Remember that this is all BEFORE they are given any laws, before they are even a people. In addition, burial of wastes would have preserved the evidence, ask any archeologist how much they learn from midden.
Buz writes: What evidence would you expect? I cited corroborating evidence in the region relating to the beach crossing. You all simply waived them all off, repeating the lie that I've provided no evidence. That's the way it goes with you people who have a vested interest in non-accountability to a higher power. Nonsense Buz. I am accountable to a higher power, the same one that will someday judge YOU, yet you continue to repeat falsehoods. You provided NO corroborating evidence that stood up to even a cursory examination.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Buzsaw
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Message 108 of 657 (598943)
01-04-2011 10:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 107 by jar
01-04-2011 10:29 AM
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Re: Artifact Evidence, Etc
jar writes: Remember that this is all BEFORE they are given any laws, before they are even a people. True. However, having been brick making slaves in large numbers and given the multitude in close proximity, one must assume that they were already practicing this hygienic element of Jewish law.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.
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jar
Member (Idle past 140 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 109 of 657 (598944)
01-04-2011 11:12 AM
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Reply to: Message 108 by Buzsaw
01-04-2011 10:42 AM
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Re: Artifact Evidence, Etc
Buz writes: True. However, having been brick making slaves in large numbers and given the multitude in close proximity, one must assume that they were already practicing this hygienic element of Jewish law. Huh? Why? And if they were, it would leave even more evidence. In addition, burial of wastes would have preserved the evidence, ask any archeologist how much they learn from midden.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo
Member (Idle past 713 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 110 of 657 (598949)
01-04-2011 11:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
01-04-2011 10:18 AM
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Re: Artifact Evidence, Etc
Buzsaw writes: What evidence would you expect?
Well, speaking of manna:
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Num 11:8 And the people went about, and gathered it, and ground it in mills, or beat it in a mortar, and baked it in pans, and made cakes of it: and the taste of it was as the taste of fresh oil.
We'd expect to find remnants of the utensils they used, the mills, the mortars, the pans, etc.
"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 1035 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 111 of 657 (598954)
01-04-2011 12:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
01-04-2011 10:18 AM
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Re: Artifact Evidence, Etc
Jewish law required the burial of human waste etc. And digging thousands of holes for poop out in the desert is going to leave no traces at all? Really, Buz?
"God is Santa Claus for adults." - Mad Kallie
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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2596 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: 09-02-2008
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Message 112 of 657 (598957)
01-04-2011 1:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
01-04-2011 10:18 AM
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Re: Artifact Evidence, Etc
Buzsaw writes: Other factors regarding traces: They had one food; manna from the sky which lasted 24 hours for each serving. No need for food production or preservation etc. No plows or other implements were needed. Jewish law required the burial of human waste etc.
According to the bible, they also ate meat, and burying the poop of one to two million people is gonna leave a whole bunch of evidence. We find none, however.
What evidence would you expect?
Evidence that the Jews were their. Their poop, their dead, their tools, their camp-sites. To name a few.
I cited corroborating evidence in the region relating to the beach crossing. You all simply waived them all off, repeating the lie that I've provided no evidence.
We didn't lie Buz. You didn't provide evidence, you asserted that what you showed us there was evidence that exodus happened, but it wasn't, it was all assertion.
That's the way it goes with you people who have a vested interest in non-accountability to a higher power.
Of course Buz. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that assertion isn't evidence, now could it...
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005
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Message 113 of 657 (598962)
01-04-2011 1:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 111 by Coragyps
01-04-2011 12:02 PM
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Re: Artifact Evidence, Etc
And digging thousands of holes for poop
Over 40 years that would be millions of holes.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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New Cat's Eye
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Over 40 years that would be millions of holes. You got any evidence for that assertion!?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005
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You got any evidence for that assertion!?
So you think it would be thousands of holes? And no it is not an assertion. I am doing a simple thought exercise on something that there is no evidence for even happening. How can I present evidence for something that is fanciful to begin with. Are you asking how did I arrive at millions of holes? If so ask me that question. There is no evidence because there is no evidence the Exodus even happened.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Percy
Member Posts: 23085 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 6.3
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CS has a tendency to forget smilies. --Percy
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 117 of 657 (598983)
01-04-2011 3:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 116 by Percy
01-04-2011 3:13 PM
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Another confirmation of Poe's Law!
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005
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All right you got me. Poe's law lives and is confirmed again.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Buzsaw
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Message 119 of 657 (599033)
01-04-2011 6:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 110 by ringo
01-04-2011 11:47 AM
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Re: Artifact Evidence, Etc
ringo writes: We'd expect to find remnants of the utensils they used, the mills, the mortars, the pans, etc. Why? These things went with them where ever they went. There's no reason most of that would have lasted 40 years or so. These things were hard to come by and needful. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.
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Buzsaw
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Message 120 of 657 (599038)
01-04-2011 6:59 PM
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Re: Far Fetched Poop Holes
Likely there were holes or small trenches for the purpose downwind which were covered with layers of dirt until full. Over the millenia, erosion etc would have left no trace. This is how the Exodus debate has been since the git go, with silly stuff like this after which the skeptics allege they've falsified the evidence. LOL. This is a good example of how futile it is to debate Bibliofobics on this topic.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.
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