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Author Topic:   Faith healing: why does god need to asked to heal people?
Hyroglyphx
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Message 53 of 63 (579903)
09-06-2010 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by archaeologist
09-05-2010 12:40 AM


I don't know that God doesn't heal amputees. I'm sure it's rare, but then it just stands to reason that it would take a lot of faith. Jesus said you only need a little (mustard seed) but he also said you have to use it. It would take a lot of faith to equal a little at times
That's not a good rejoinder. That not one amputee has been healed at least appears to be a good indication that intercessory prayer does nothing.
I mean, haven't you ever noticed that people only say things are miracles when good things happen? I'll give you an example: In an infamous battle in Afghanistan, approximately 15 Navy SEALs (some of whom I knew personally, albeit briefly) were killed in action, along with 6 or so Army Nightstalkers in the Hindu Kush mountains.
A solitary Navy SEAL made it out alive. This SEAL claims that God delivered him from his enemies, though half of the platoon were Christian too. They died horribly painful deaths, and he barely survived. In fact, if it weren't for the ancient middle eastern culture of extreme hospitality, he would have been executed.
So everyone is claiming that it was a miracle, when all signs point to nothing more than a combination of pure luck, steadfast determination, and excellent military training. Had everyone died, you would hear no mention of God. That one guy made it out means the difference from people claiming miracles.
Why is that?
but atheists just want excuses to remain atheists.
And the religious want the same. The kinds of mental gymnastics the religious have to go through to validate themselves and their beliefs are staggering.
I mean, look what you're doing with the amputee's. It's a very simple question, but it's one that you cannot answer genuinely and simply.
People die horrific deaths every day on planet earth, but they only pay homage to God when he inexplicably saves one. Does that strike you as nothing more than a coincidence?

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 62 of 63 (579927)
09-06-2010 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Dr Adequate
09-06-2010 2:58 PM


Google turns up 45,000 hits for the word miracle in conjunction with the phrase "sole survivor".
Strange, isn't it?
Must be a miracle
If a hundred people don't get killed, that's normal, but if ninety-nine of them do get killed that's evidence of a beneficient God.
Naturally.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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