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ZenMonkey
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Message 302 of 683 (622995)
07-07-2011 4:41 PM


Had it with Mazzy.
If there's some sort of Olympic medal for illogical arguments, baseless assertions, disregard of counter-arguments and rebuttals, and basic ignorance, I believe that Mazzy has taken the gold, leaving all previous champions gasping for air as they find themselves left far, far behind, choking on the dust. Honestly, I suspect that at this point there are only four reasons why anyone else is continuing to participate in the Why are there no human apes alive today? thread:

1. The entertainment value of reading her stream of consciousness posts. You never quite know what she'll come up with next.

2. The entertainment value of making fun of said stream of consciousness posts.

3. The challenge of finding new ways to refute her "arguments." The steady flow of reasonable, substantive replies - which she completely ignores - have been vary educational.

4. The unwillingness to simply see her banned for multiple violations of forum guidelines, which she would take as a total vindication of her "arguments" and go off to brag to her creationist pals that she out-debated an entire forum of them evolutionist devils. She'll almost certainly do this anyway, so I think that this is the weakest of all reasons for anyone to keep posting.

As evidence, here in its entirety is Message 676. I picked this pretty much at random as a representation of the quality of her participation in the thread. Since her replies to other peoples' posts also appear to be random, with no relation to what's been said, there's no need to provide a context.

Mazzy writes:

This thread is about no hairy apey half humans being about.
Creationists have won the day based on facts.

Evolutionists have won the day on being ignorant of creation sciences, abusive and showing they have no more than a bunch of debated theories to explain the facts.

In other words I feel many of you have confimed you can no longer tell the difference between fact and fiction.

I don't know that moderators can really do anything, other than suggest that everyone abandon the thread and try to forget that any of this Twilight Zone exploration of one creationist's freakshow "mind" ever happened. But I ask that at least something be done, however futile.


Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert

I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill


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ZenMonkey
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From: Portland, OR USA
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Message 306 of 683 (623028)
07-07-2011 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 305 by DBlevins
07-07-2011 7:44 PM


Re: Disaster in progress...
DBlevins writes:

We can help her engage in the debate, imho, if we hold ourselves to a higher standard. I think the soft approach really is more productive here. Give the benefit of doubt, that the person is not lying or insane. Understand that people can suffer from cognitive dissonance. Provide her with the quotes where she says one thing, and then another, but stop short of calling it lying.

And how's that been working for you so far?

/administrative thread abuse


Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert

I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill


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ZenMonkey
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Message 366 of 683 (631953)
09-04-2011 9:09 PM


Not a good start to the conversation.
I think that Dawn Bertot is getting a wee bit testy already in the Do creationists actually understand their own arguments? thread. Here's how he starts Message 12:

Dawn Bertot writes:

Forgive me for saying it,but you are nothing but a filthy liar, you know I have done this on many occasions with my position of what creationism is exacally. You above comment is a misrepresentation and an out an out lie

Edited by AdminPD, : Taken care of before you posted.


Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert

I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill


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