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xongsmith
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Message 96 of 193 (584632)
10-03-2010 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by Dr Adequate
10-02-2010 10:01 PM


Re: Lincoln
But if I am to be foolishly led on by the stories of The Gangs Of New York, the Scorsese MOVIE, then I am left with a hodgepodge of motives & sabotaging to advance one's own. In fact, it is my belief that soldiers go to war because of their own families and their own towns. They are willing to believe all manner of lies if it means saving their families & their home neighborhoods. So most of the southern soldiers were fed propaganda about "States Rights", which really only amounted to states rights to own slaves, while, on the other hand, northern soldiers were fed propaganda about saving the Union & serving your country as you walked right off the gangplank of the ship that brought you here. It is hard for me to think of a more powerful scene than of the Irish landing in New York and getting instantly impressed into the Union Army and boarding ships heading down to the battles down south while cranes are unloading the dead from those same battles off those same ships. OOOoooo. Of course the Union cause wasn't all pretty roses & moral superiority! LOL. But that was just a MOVIE. And everyone kneauxs that MOVIES are not reference material at all in this forum.
I stand for the RABBITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another fine book I read recently instead of long ago when I should have is Confederates In The Attic. It's only half-time, man. Hard core of course.
But the scene that still brings tears to my eyes is from the Burns stuff - the old black & white movie of the survivors of Gettysburg, now in their 80's and 90's or whatever, reenacting the Battle...up to the point where they cannot go any further in this charade and throw down their weapons and run to each other in joy and hug and hug and hug - what a scene!!!!
Mr. Dylan has been quoted somewhere as saying that the story of this country cannot be understood without at first understanding the story of the Civil War.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 184 of 193 (890900)
01-11-2022 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by Phat
01-11-2022 11:44 AM


Re: Could it happen again?
Phat writes
My point, however, is that if one looks around globally, there are hundreds of cases of a legitimate claim to reparations.
I would say that there are at least a BILLION legitimate cases, globally.
But let's just address the USA, and say that your look-around is woefully shallow and undercounted, even just in Colorado.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."

- xongsmith, 5.7d


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