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Shouldn't Churches Learn from Deconversion Stories?

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ringo
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Message 24 of 28 (729910)
06-21-2014 12:21 PM 		Reply to: Message 23 by Phat
06-21-2014 9:49 AM

Re: Its De Conversion, Stupid
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I would not call my experience in life de-conversion so much as I see it as reconversion.
So conversion is like evolution - it has no direction.
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ringo
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06-21-2014 4:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 25 by Phat
06-21-2014 4:41 PM

Re: Its De Conversion, Stupid
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You can't learn much in a room full of sheeple(one of Buzsaws favorite words )
That's why I don't go to church any more.
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ringo
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06-21-2014 6:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 27 by Phat
06-21-2014 5:53 PM

Re: Its De Conversion, Stupid
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Knowers are entirely evidence based. If they don't know---they will not bother with belief.
That's wrong. When we don't know, belief is a backup. Unfortunately, "True Believers" sometimes put belief ahead of the knowledge they do have.
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Its not always about rejecting the belief in God...sometimes its rejecting the mindset of the people in the group.
In my case, I don't think there ever was a belief in God to reject.
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