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Author Topic:   Can You define God?
ICANT
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Message 19 of 318 (584751)
10-03-2010 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by 2ndReign
10-03-2010 8:10 PM


Re: God
Hi 2ndReign,

Welcome to EvC.

2ndReign writes:

God knows himself and only God can describe himself.

I agree.

God described Himself to Moses as I AM that I AM.

Existence that exists.

I like to describe Him as everything that ever was, is, or will ever be.

It is a fact such an entity must exist.

It makes no difference what existence is it is everything that ever was, is, or ever will be.

The universe exists, we exist therefore existence had to exist.

There is no mechanism for existence to begin to exist.

I call that existence God.

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 25 of 318 (584845)
10-04-2010 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by 2ndReign
10-04-2010 1:14 AM


Re: God
Hi 2ndReign,

2nd Reign writes:

Do you believe in "Free Will"? This has to be the ultimate religious dilemma. A God knowing all vs free will,and the dilemma is this: If God knows all then there is only one set of events that can occur. Therefore, there can be no free will because no matter what man chooses, the decision will be the one that God has foreseen,don't you agree?

You stated in Message 1:

2ndReign writes:

You try to define your love of someone by describing why you love them. You attempt to define the sky by describing its properties,etc. So based on this,can you define God? Some if most would say that God is good, merciful, just, loving, and all powerful. All of these are words to describe him. It doesn't make them untrue, it simply avoided the bigger challenge, and that is defining him.

What does the existence or non-existence of freewill have to do with defining God?

But to answer your question since this is your thread maybe I won't be declared off topic.

First to understand God you must know God. How can you understand something you do not believe to exist?

So open your mind and you may understand what I am going to say.

God is Existence. He is the beginning and the end. God is not limited by time as we are.

God stands at the beginning and views the end at the same time.

God can still see the man He formed from the dust of the ground and breathed into him the breath of life and he became a living being and placed in the garden. He also sees his disobedience. He sees your birth, and death. He sees and knows every decision you have ever made or will make during your stay here on earth.

He knows what your final fate will be.

But at all times you have the freedom to accept what He has offered in the form of a free full pardon and eternal life with Him.

You control that decision and all other decisions you make with no control by Him. He does not control your decisions even though He knows what they are.

He does already know what that decision is because He sees your entire life at the same time.

Yes I know that is preposterous. How could someone see the beginning and the end at the same time?

Well we are not talking about someone, we are talking about God eternal existence. All knowledge is included in the "everything" I mentioned in my definition of God.

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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