The Global Warming Scam

NPR was talking about this the other day. It's a spiralling affect that, frankly, there's little we can do about. It would take the unified effort of the entire world over the next 30 years to reverse the effects of greenhouse gases. Unfortunately, the world is anything but unified on this issue.We can debate about this all we want. GW is pretty much unstoppable at this stage in the game.

I have often wonder why it is generally the case that if one professes to be a conservative one must absolutely be against having a cleaner planet. Now, I am not simply just talking about the famous ones like Ann Coulter (who once said that god gave us this planet to plunder and rape all we want). Ordinary everyday conservatives tend to have this attitude as well.Can anyone explain why if one is a conservative one must be against a cleaner planet? This seems to defy my common sense. Because common sense tells me that if you are a conservative you're suppose to want to preserve this planet, which is suppose to be god's gift for humanity. Whenever I get a gift from my family, I don't just trash it. I cherish it and keep it in good shape. If conservatives consider this planet to be god's gift for man, why do they keep wanting to destroy it?

I've always wondered why conservatives are so against improving our technology to become less dependent on foreign oil. I mean... is there a reason why conservatives are so intent on sucking up to foreign oil companies? Is it written in the bible somewhere? Did jesus say "thou shalt depend on foreign oil"?

Haha, and I suppose you also believe us liberals can fly and do sorcery? What other nonsense do you believe about us liberals? This I'd like to see.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

So, if you believe in jesus you have to want to destroy the planet.

But what's the reason for christians to be anti-environment? It seems to be against common sense, since the earth is supposedly god's gift to mankind. You don't trash a gift to you by someone you claim to care dearly. My sister gave me a painting that she painted a number of years ago. It's still hanging in our living room. You'd think that something as precious as the earth given to them by their creator ought to be cared more for by the the christians.To me, environmentalism is a moral issue. We live in a first world country, so we are less impacted by polution and global warming. Most people in the world suffer on a whole other level because of what we have done to become this rich. This is a moral issue. It seems to me like it's common sense that the morally superior crowd (aka christians) should be the ones screaming their heads off to clean up the planet.

GDR, I see that you are living in Canada, so of course you are having doubts about global warming the same way that you are having doubts that people actually have trouble finding adequate food and clean water for their children, considering that you are living in a first world nation.The Aussies would disagree with you about the non-obviousness of global warming. Their decade long drought officially turned into climate change a couple of years ago. Why? Because droughts end. Climate change doesn't. Australia used to be a top exporter of grain. Now, they don't export at all.What will it take to convince you? Are you expecting Canada to turn into a desert before you stop doubting?Edit.Here is an article on the long term drought in Australia. Even the Prime Minister, a hardened climate change denier, has begun to accept the science behind climate change.Page not found | The IndependentEdit again.I still remember when people were denying up and down that there was an ozone hole. The arguments ranged from "I can't see the hole, where is it?" to "those scientists are damn liars". For me, it's the whole thing all over again taken to a new level. This time, the christians are determined to let the end of the world come.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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And there is no one denying the fact that temperature fluctuates up and down. What's up now is that the spike in world average temperatures fit perfectly with the spike in co2 emissions in the last century. Here is a question you can ask yourself. Would you say that increase in co2 concentration in the atmosphere traps more heat, traps the same amount of heat, or traps less heat in the atmosphere?Or here is something to consider. So what if it turns out to be that the real cause for global warming ain't co2 emissions? Would you rather do something and find out later it was unnecessary or would you rather not do anything and find out later it was necessary?There's a joke that's floating around. It goes like this. Global warming proven false. Oh noes, we've improved the environment for nothing! Not scapegoating at all. It is a fact that there are no louder voices against ANY environmental issue than those of christians. There are no louder voices against ANY improvement in human rights issues than those of christians.As a christian, if you really care you should be out there telling your fellow christians to stop trying to impede progress on environmental and human rights issues. Time to prove your moral superiority.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Let me see. Tea party associates itself heavily with christianity denies GW. Republican party associates itself heavily with christianity denies GW and are anti-green technology. They even have a track record of anti-environmental policies. I've been to dozens of churches, all of which deny GW. Considering the fact that my side of the family and friends are conservative christians, most social events we attend are also attended heavily by christians. And so far, most I have talked to deny GW and are anti-green technology.Human rights issues. The only groups who have consistently resisted very loudly human rights like desegregation, women rights, and gay rights are christian organizations. In fact, we're seeing the latest issue being panned out right now as we speak. Christian churches literally spend millions of dollars to campaign against gay rights legislations.You need to get out more. You mean all those farmers in Australia who have lost everything in the last decade because of climate change? A decade ago, Australia was one of the world's leading exporters of grain. Now, they're not exporting at all. Their decade long drought has been officially accepted as climate change.Glaciers are melting. The ice on mountain tops are melting faster than ever before. This means that the aqueducts are overflowing at certain times of the year and not producing enough water in others.No doubt, the first nations that will be affected are of course third world countries.Beside co2 emissions and methane gas escaping from the tundra, can you suggest another source of green house gas? Meteorology deals with seasonal changes. Climatology deals with the climate. Please try to understand the difference first.