The Nonsense of Revelation 13 Economics

Revelation 13 describes the chip monetary system which is now being introduced in different ways through out the world, and the enthralled and shallow are taking it voluntarily as a socalled faster, safer way to do their banking, buying and selling.Its just another fulfilled prophecy, as time is by design.Man proposes and denies, God desposes.Is there anyone HERE that sees it otherwise. Its simple literary comprehension. Theres no debate HERE about Revelation 13 being about todays economics, as we become a cashless society by force.Please read and study and live out current events, or go to your bank etc ... and find out whats happening.

Paul K has it right, simple language comprehension in Revelation 13 leaves no doubt that the chip is now HERE and starting to be used by the dumb and dumber.No, not all people take it. You can die or live in the third beautiful world where bartering and trading, and bank cards and chips do not rule, but in the vile 1st world you will probably only make it a few months before you starve or are hunted down.So as Paul states.... you can read your Bible or Truth Book, or Science Jounal of the Ages, or you can get real and note that they have started the cashless society. Think darn yas think, use your God given heads for more than an ornament on your shoulders.Know current events, know the deceptions, know the course of history, know prophecy, be prepared rather than so unprepared and dumb and getting dumber.If you take the MARK, youre a goner you have soul your soul. Sorry too late, fight it all you want, but you will no better someday...

Jar wrote..."""""Biblically/prophetically, this is on tract, corroborating other end time prophecies. Why? Because it is prophesied in the book of Revelation, chapter 13 that all nations, tribes and tongues will, in the apocalyptic end times be required to buy or sell via marks and numbers implanted in the right hand or forehead.I see this as relevant to what's going on. All global currencies will fail, necessitating a global monetary system in which all money is globally regulated and secured by a global government so as to be totally safe from theft and/or inflation. Christians are forbidden to receive this mark; thus the great tribulation and global persecution of Christians (also prophesied by Jesus and the apostles).from: Message 46Here is the passage from Revelation 13:quote:
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16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Let's look at this passage.First, everybody gets the same number and the number does NOT identify the individual but rather "The Beast". There is no mention that this is some substitute for money or goods or any other method of buying or selling.Second, everybody gets the number. There is nothing in the passage about Christians being forbidden to get the "Mark".So let's see if there is anyway that this passage could be talking about money, currency, that buying or selling is "via marks and numbers implanted in the right hand or forehead"?As mentioned above, the mark is the same for every person. It does not identify the individual or any account or currency, it just identifies "The Second Beast". There is no way it can be used to effect some transaction.Second, is there anything that says Christians would not be allowed to have the "Mark"?"""Jar because you only did a superficiasl reading of Revelation 13, you have numerous mistakes. Remember prophecy is an exact design of the Lord for the future, just as history from the beginning is an exact design of the past, straight from the beginning without missing links.You have to be thorough and complete, Prophecy is not a ten second comprehension. You need to know all prophecies or most of them to start to piece all the truths together. In prophecy unlike evolution non thinking, everything fits together cohesively.The money systems fail not because the central banks have indebted everyone and everycountry by design of their perfideous
elite owners, but because the vile, want the whole world and not just parts of it. They need their one man rule, the AC. (Surkov)The mid term war in the Tribulation, the nuclear war brings down or destroys three nuclear nations, leaving the victor to rule. He, the beast, installs his countries financial system, to the voctor goes the spoils, and demands all countries to obey. Read it again after a good nights sleep.Then anybody that doesnt take the chip, gets hunted down and killed. If church people or mosque people or synagogue people take the MARK out of fear of death, they have sold their souls as mentioned.Yes churchies can take the MARK like any other religion, for their is only one religion in the endtime and they will obey. But the Mark takers, have sould their soul for bread and the right to buy and sell.Now have a sleep and wake up refreshed and take in the whole story.... the whole truthThanksIf you have sane questions, no problem just ask.

Jar is absolutely correct when talking about brainless church people who are taught not to think and just be mindless followers of the church system and or just keep paying the pastor to appease them or teach them crazy doctrines of do nothingness and stay so called holy.Church people dont know their Christian faith for the most part, have never done what Jesus said to do, and have no idea what is going on in the world, and yet are as aggressive and war mongering as the political systems they sponsor and support, as they deem them righteous and holy, in killing the poor.(yemen, etc etc etc etc etc.. amen)Just Propose a NEW TOPIC on the exact verses that these wolf like churches use, and we can pin point exactly some of these insane or twisted exact phrases. Its not vague but rather blunt.Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Now Jar, as mentioned take some time off and study and read before getting more confused and falling back to your ignorance of prophecy rather than your study of prophecy.No prophecy has ever failed, majority of people fail to understand prophecy because they dont listen to the Lord and see only the bark of their pet peeve rather than the tree or the forest.ProphecyshallbefulfilledSo now, forget your stumbling block or blocks and get back to the subject, stay on TOPIC.Cashless society, chips, scanning technology...... then figure out
nuclear war, controlling elite, one man rule ... put it together via the Lords help.. and you'll make progress rather than digressing to your pet peeve, because you csant figure prophecy out.Remember nothing is hidden that shall not be revealed. So you can reveal these mysteries, use honesty and effort... Ha and as mentioned a little sleepIHSDavid

Im pretty educated as to Bible Prophecy, stop whining as if there are failed prophecies, or some prophesies are not fulfilled yet etc etc.... and start a NEW THREAD on that topic and I will do my best to educate you on prophecy. Not a problem just go to NEW PROPOSED TOPICS and surely an administrator would agree, its a GREAT TOPIC.and allow its consent for posting.WE can go over specifics rather than your false statement that the Lords prophecies fail or will fail or have failed or that you got'em all screwed up, or someone in the past screwed them up.But WAIT, lets be on TOPIC, please be specific so you dont fliter from one excuse to another. Name a specific prophecy that failed, and I shall respond if allowed to...See you there.But HERE we are talking about Rev. 13 and the upcoming chip technology, tracking technology, hunt'em down and kill em technology, if you dont take the new world order MARKSTAY ON TOPICThanksEdited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Unflipping believable , Jar, that you have ZERO reading comprehension, ZERO as in Zero.......You dont know current events and economics and you dont know how to read, I think you need a mutation...... to get out of denial.Revelation 12 KJV - And there appeared a great wonder in - Bible Gateway14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.Etc etc etc.. simple internet search MARK OF THE BEAST.But if you want the MARK of the Beast, the Lord lets you take it, so you can buy and sell with it, and survive another day, and eventually find out you soul your soul. Youve been warned.

Back to Revelations 13 .. buying and selling is ECONOMICS.Jar ignorance of what 'buying and selling' means is not helping you asppear sane and intelligent.IN the seven years since you started this thread, the prophesied means and methods of this MARK in the hand or forehead is in place and starting to be used, and will be installed once there is a one world government.Jesus wins again, prophecy wins again....... but this end wont be the END, just the NEW BEGINNING of the MILLINIUM as Jesus promised.Thank you Jesus for true economics and true living and hard work rather than luck and chance gambling and denials.

Go for it Ringo, your foolishness, your ignorance...but as the Lord states its your choice and your RESPONSIBILTY.Just stick out your hand and get your chip, or let them implant it in your forehead. Youve been warned.Anyway, this thread is already won for the Lord.Revelation 13 is about the upcoming chip system after the dollar dies, and the NWO of ******* takes over, and demands compliance for peace and safety sake.And those that are afraid and gutless and whimps, and want to get food and not die, just accept the MARK of the world leader ******** and his priest *********, and then turn on their neighbors who dont have the MARK, and start hunting them down as if they are the traitors to the cause.This thread is won,REVELATION 13 is fulfilled prophecy concerning the End Time

Calling me a wacko, is surely not an appropriate way of getting me to tell you who ******** and ****** represent. Besides its on my website if you really want to research it and get into greater detail.I obviously didn;t tell you because all you need to know was already present and explained.If you have a real question concerning the topic, do consider asking more politely.ThanksDavidEdited by Davidjay, : No reason given.Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

No, as no one that chooses Jesus fails. People fail, Jeus never.None of His prophecies have ever failed, all will be fulfilled to the letter.If you differ, just be the first one to take the MARK, your choice.*****************************It should go without saying that none of the Lord's Prophecies shall
fail, yet some people out of fear of making a mistake in prophecy, negate
the Lord's Prophecy and make themselves willingly ignorant of His and
our Future, They even search through scriptures looking for places where
they can back up their unbelief.They choose Paul's rather loose wording words and contradictory words in I Corinthians 13 over the Lord's direct
Words. They are very different, for first let's read what Paul said . my responses in . .( . )1Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: (Yes Love never fails because God is love...which is what Paul is trying to
emphasis) but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail;(Yes man's made-up prophecies shall fail, but NO absolutely
Not Paul, the Lord's Prophecies from His mouth straight through His prophets and prophetesses will NOT fail. You
should watch your wording much closer Paul) whether there be tongues, they shall cease; (Yes, after the Lord's return,
when He gives us a new language we probably won't be speaking in tongues anymore but until then we shall be, so Paul
can't say that after he wrote this epistle to this new babe church, that tongues were right then and there going to stop.
NO, we shall speak in tongues in the End-Time and we shall be getting more information from the Lord through
Prophecy in the End-Time) whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. (No true knowledge stays and is eternal
and besides for eternity we will never learn all the beautiful knowledge of the Lord. So again, be more specific and clear
Paul, as people easily twist your words around to something you surely didn't intend to say)WHY...because the Lord, the King of Kings, and Almighty Father who created the
Worlds and everything that is via the WORD.said through direct prophecy through
his anointed and appointed prophetIsaiah 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one
of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth
it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.None of the Lord's prophecies shall fail . ..and the vast majority of prophecies are yet to be fulfilled because All our
brethren and prophets in the past desired to be living in the Last Days to see the fulfillment of all their hopes and
dreams in the Lord making right all the wrongs of man kind . . . straight forward and simple.Therefore the Lord shall be speaking to us more and more into the End-Time . and revealing more about prophecies
with new prophecies so we can understand what the Lord shall be doing in the Latter Days.Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, EVEN to the time of the end: (when it has to be
opened up)Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your
daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: (We shall All prophesy)Joel 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. (To those that
OBEY Him)Joe; 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. (during the
tribulation and we shall be on Earth)Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the
LORD come. (during the tribulation and we won’t have been resurrected until AFTER the Tribulation)Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount
Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.**********************************************For NONE of the Lord’s Prophecies of the End-Time shall fail, they shall be fulfilled exactly. And that’s not
my opinion, that’s the Lord’s Word.Jay (Jordan)From NoWordshalllfailEdited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

No ringo, NO... dont take the Mark and at least you have not sold out your soul for a piece of bread.Yes, be a so called outlaw and run to the hills as Jesus said. Mind you, they will get you within a month or two, but if you follow the directions of the Lord, you will get His protection, and provisions until the End.Fantastic true life story as the conclusion is a buildup that all of us that know prophecy are awaiting.We flee via our two prophets to the wilderness....Oh read it yourself, we fight on for three and a half years.... awesome, exciting, thrilling, not the foolishness of do nothing and get swept into the sky. We battle the evil ones....Onward Christian Soldiers.
(not with guns)Read it.... and get onboard.2ndExodus2

Revelation is direct prophecy and confirms all other prophets and prophecies.Some of its main confirmations areDaniel 2,7,8,9 and especially 11
Zechariah 2,4
Ezekiel 34
Esdras 11, Ill check that chapter.etc etc etc etc etc etc... all prophecies fit together and confirm one another. If yours dont you have it wrong.As a bible study, study the economics of the Lord and marvelIE. Take the seventh year off farmers and I will give you double on the sixth year ?Jesus set the price of wheat, and barley so the dam merchants couldnt profit by price gouging the poor. Worked for centuriesJesus set Pentecost fifty days after the planting of the first fruits. SEE Counting the Omar exactly. Again study the Moon, Phi and growth and moons effect on us and plants, corelating with gravity pull, pineal glands, sprouting, reproduction and more.Time, economics, harvesting, holy day corelations..... now go and do some studying... true researchers if you have any prophecy or moon or holy day econmic questions, just ask. I know some of the answers, you can figure out the rest.LIJ (love in Jesus)David

Jesus was the Creator and as such created the laws and motions of the Heavens, Distances, Speeds and TIMES.I have been proving this over and over and over again.Forget worshiping Judiasm and/or Churchianity.Pentecost means fifty, the Counting of the Omar is the excat number of days until harvest when the planting is done by the moon. Think darn ya, THINK, and study Holy Days and their timing.The Hebrew calendar as directed by the Lord, is lunar. To understand this you have to understand the MOON and its DESIGN and motions, and how it effects plants women, men, fertilization and rthymns and more. Learn darn ya LEARN.It wasnt by accident that the Lord arose from the disciples on Pentecost and sent the Holy Ghost at Pentecost.Study 50 and what it means biblically, the captives were set free on the 50 YEAR. Slaves were set free on the 50th YEAR. Think about it. Study it, know the correspondances and principles. Know the timeline of HISTORY... rather than talking about what comes out of you.Jesus said, Its not what goes into your mouth that defiles a man but what comes out of it. Watch your language, control your emotions.Learn Bro, Learn

Forgot the reference but you or someone can find it .... this time lets have you do the search via GOOGLE.120 fifties...... will pass before ..... I forgot.But it matched up exactly with the much confirmed 6,000 years of world history.6000yearsofEarthshistory120 times 50 equals 6000.IE Once you learn to hear from the Lord, things and principles and life will start to make sense, and come together, not just the math, and biology, but your whole life..Search viewers, search members, study darn yas study...google darn yas GOOGLE