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Author Topic:   Textual Discrepancies & How They Could Impact Christianity
saab93f
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Message 87 of 93 (654275)
02-28-2012 5:24 PM


Empty tomb?
Ive been reading texts by a Finnish theologian Ilkka Pyysiinen. One of the things he writes about is the "Empty tomb".
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In what follows, I provide one example of how the cognitive scienceof religion can be probably applied in the study of early Christianity(see also Martin 2004, 2005, this volume). I focus on the question of what the disciples believed to have happened to Jesus after his deathand how their reections on this affected the early spread of what latercame to be known as Christianity.
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The earliest Christian community in Jerusalem seems not to have known the location of the tomb of Jesus; the place that is presently known as such was first identifed by Constantine’s mother Helena in 325 (see Myllykoski 2002: 47; cf. Walker 1990: 235—81). There is no evidence of the grave having been venerated as a holy place by the disciples; this lack of a cult of veneration cannot be explained by the supposed fact that the tomb was empty. It is precisely this emptiness that would have made it worthy of veneration, if only the location of the tomb had been known (see also Kirby 2005; Parsons 2005).
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There are just so many discrepancies that baffle the mind of an unbeliever very much. To overcome those one has to perform such mental gymnastics that are...unbelievable

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saab93f
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Message 90 of 93 (654323)
02-29-2012 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by purpledawn
02-29-2012 6:38 AM


Re: Empty tomb?
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Were there such discrepancies in the texts concerning the tomb?
In 1 Cor 15:3—8, Paul also claims that Jesus had appeared to Peter,and then to the twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living . . . After appearing to James and the apostles, the Lord finally appeared to Paul himself. This list is not without problems; in some manuscripts, the number of twelve has actually been corrected to11. Still more problematic is the claim about the 500 brothers about whom the gospels know nothing (Price 2005; cf. Barrett 1994: 341—42;Ldemann 1994: 103—6; Luke 24:34; Acts 1:15).
Would those be that kind of discrepancies? All 12 Apostles witnessed the resurrected Jesus but then someone "remembered" that Judas had already died so the number was dropped to 11.

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saab93f
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Message 92 of 93 (654325)
02-29-2012 8:14 AM
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02-29-2012 8:06 AM


Re: Empty tomb?
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IMO, this discrepancy doesn't really impact the basic tenets of Christianity.
How about the empty tomb thing altogether? If (when) it was only in 325AD that a woman recognized the tomb and its location - before that the entire resurrection issue had not been as clear-cut as it is understood to be today.

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