Would ID/Creationists need new, independant dating techniques??

What relevance does this have with respect to dating methodologies? A non-uniform atmosphere or earth surface would not affect U/Pb levels in zircons, as one example. If you think I am wrong then please show how this dating methodology is affected by atmospheric pressure and the earth's surface.

Buz, I have to point out that you have been shown evidence on numerous occasions that shows beyond any doubt that the pre-flood atmosphere and environmental conditions were very much like the conditions today.You keep repeating these falsehoods like the flood or the pre-flood atmosphere or the Exodus or the Conquest of Canaan or fulfilled prophecy as though we have not refuted each of them time after time.So let's deal with your pre-flood crap once again.Go look at the Oetzi thread and once again it simply shows that your pre-flood premise is simply WRONG!

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

To further expand on this, Buzsaw would also need to explain how the vapour canopy on the Earth affected the radiometric dating of Lunar rock samples and why oldest crustal samples from both the Earth and the moon give similar ages.

Not to mention asteroids dating older than both even though they were in the vacuum of space.

Actually the Bible puts no specific or approximate age on the earth. Edited by goldrush, : No reason given.

So you accept the age of the earth established by scientists then?

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

You are taking my post out of its intended context.YEC do interpret the Bible as providing an estimate of the age of the earth. My post was meant to explain why a person holding such a belief would not need or accept dating methods.

it's also wrong. it's just a matter of adding up dates in genealogies and the record of kings, until you get to a point we can verify historically.

Oh, I see. I apologize. It wasn't my goal to invalidate or distract from your point, I was just pointing out that dispite YECs' interpretation or inference, the Bible does not put any date on the earth period. It is dead silent. It's almost off-topic for this particular thread, but I just wanted to make it known that its not actually the Bible itself promoting the idea of either a young or old earth. Edited by goldrush, : No reason given.Edited by goldrush, : No reason given.

The Bible cannot promote anything without a promoting human. Are you saying that there is no support in the Bible for the YEC interpretation? I cannot agree with that despite the fact that I think the YEC interpretation is wrong.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Well not directly but they arrived at that date indirectly this guy lived for so long then this guy the son of that guy for so long thy added up the dates and came to the conclusion that the earth is 5800 years old.so either the bible is wrong on its genealogy or the whole of science is wrong my bet is on the bible is just wrong on tones of stuff.

YECs' age of the earth does not prove the Bible wrong. It is possible for a Christian or person to believe in creation without ascribing a particular age to the earth since the Bible gives no age, so a believer in creation does not necessarily need a dating technique. The fact YECs age (which is actually not Biblical) contradicts scientific understanding also does not prove science is correct. Scientific understanding is constantly growing and changing. As soon as we think we figured something out scientifically we discover a factor we never thought about or didn't know to think about. We have acheived great things through science, but our technology and medicines aren't perfect. They often create unforeseen problems with their solutions b/c people don't know what they don't know, and science does not give us any real ability to forsee all consequences. Scientists never work with full knowledge and data, only partial knowledge and data. We have a long way to go knowledgewise. How can one put full trust and dependence on the never-ending process and progress of science?Edited by goldrush, : No reason given.Edited by goldrush, : No reason given.Edited by goldrush, : No reason given.Edited by goldrush, : No reason given.

Because there is nothing else around in which one can put such trust.

That is your opinion.

Stephen Meyers is one of the most prominant ID'ers out there and he believes in an old earth. The point of ID is to simply SHOW design. It had NOTHING to do with the age of the earth. It's not an important issude when it comes to ID.