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Author Topic:   Who is really in charge of inspiration?
Dr Adequate
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Message 67 of 110 (588334)
10-24-2010 2:20 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Buzsaw
10-22-2010 6:38 PM


Re: Evidence Of Supernatural Inspiration Required
Bottom line: Evidence of supernatural inspiration.
But the mere claim that it was supernaturally inspired does not answer the suggestion that it was "the best trick ever devised by some evil god, demigod or other superbeing". Even if we allow your claim that it was supernatural, why can't it be a trick by a supernatural being not particularly well disposed to us?
The witches in Macbeth make prophecies (and clear unambiguous ones, at that) but even after unmistakable fulfillment of their prophecies Macbeth never thinks that they're God talking to him.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 78 of 110 (588374)
10-24-2010 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by jaywill
10-24-2010 9:03 AM


The ancient challenge:
" Did God really say, You shall not eat of any tree of the garden ?" (Genesis 3:1)
The modern day version of the same challenge:
"But how you KNOW that that Bible was not a trick of the Devil? Did God really inpsire the Bible ?"
There's nothing much new under the sun. Get them to doubt God's word. Get them to question God's heart.
The ancient challenge:
"Did God really say, O Adam! Dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as ye wish: But approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression. (Qur’an 7:19)?"
The modern day version of the same challenge:
"But how you KNOW that that Koran was not a trick of the Devil? Did God really inspire the Koran?"
There's nothing much new under the sun. Get them to doubt God's word. Get them to question God's heart.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 90 of 110 (588610)
10-26-2010 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by New Cat's Eye
10-26-2010 3:29 PM


Re: Gimme a break
Your question is as profound as asking how do you know anything is real.
Well, no.
It's like asking: "Who wrote this graffiti on this wall. Was it Alice or Bob?" It's a perfectly sensible question so long as you believe that Alice and Bob are real people and not just figments of your imagination.
Let me extend this metaphor further.
Suppose that you know:
(1) From circumstantial evidence, the graffiti must have been written either by Alice or Bob.
(2) Alice is a good kind person and scrupulously honest.
(3) Bob is a sociopath and a compulsive liar who hates Alice.
(4) The graffiti runs as follows:
ALICE IS A SERIAL KILLER.
THIS GRAFFITI WAS WRITTEN BY ALICE.
IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THIS GRAFFITI, THEN ALICE WILL KILL YOU.
Now, use your judgment.
Who wrote that, Alice or Bob?
Do you have to believe out of deference to Alice that Alice wrote the graffiti? Do you have to believe out of deference to Alice that the accusations against her are true? Would having faith in Alice involve believing the graffiti --- or disbelieving it?
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