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Author Topic:   The Significance of the Dover Decision
Jaderis
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Message 9 of 150 (451902)
01-29-2008 3:51 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by randman
01-29-2008 2:06 AM


Re: the applicability of the law to science
I am not sure how much litigation you have been involved in, but it is inconceivable to me that a reasoned person would consider a legal proceeding a good judge or forum to decide scientific theory.
It's not. Which is why that is not what happened in the Dover decision
What was decided was that ID was really just creationism in disguise and therefore had no place in public school science classrooms since it had already been declared unconstitutional in previous cases.
Scientific theory is "decided" by doing scientific research and subjecting it to scrutiny by your peers. However, cdesign proponentsists are loathe to do this and instead try to sneak their ideas in the back door, thus prompting the litigation.
It's baffling in fact. The law is strictly about legal rules, precedent, etc
Right, which is why the Dover case was decided the way it was. Judge Jones ruled (correctly) that ID was really creationism dressed up in slightly different clothes and was, therefore, against the law as it currently exists and he based his decision on the precedent of prior cases which established the unconstitutionality of creationism in public school classrooms.
If cdesign proponentsists were concerned at all about finding "scientific truths" then they would actually do some science and establish the validity of their "science" using the same rules that everyone else does instead of using school boards and legislative bodies as their laboratories.
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