EvC Forum: Is there Biblical support for the concept of "Original Sin"?

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Message 4 of 240 (589553)
11-03-2010 10:49 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by jar
11-01-2010 10:13 PM

It has always seemed to me that Original Sin depends on a gross misreading of the Adam and Eve story. I see that as a story intended to explain what distinguishes humans from other animals. The "sin" bit is just there as a part of the plot.

My experience with preachers, is that they illustrate their sermons with many metaphors, and sometimes use exaggerated rhetoric when presenting those metaphors. And it seems to me that is about what Paul was doing in that oft quoted Romans 5 section.

In summary, no I do not find any biblical support for "original sin".

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Message 159 of 240 (591496)
11-14-2010 12:34 PM

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11-14-2010 11:27 AM

Re: Two Questions

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You have all presented your case for why original sin should be questioned and why the Bible can and should be read in context. The conclusion, if accepted, is itself disturbing.

That should not be disturbing. It should be simple ordinary common sense.

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Message 161 of 240 (591498)
11-14-2010 12:38 PM

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11-14-2010 12:13 PM

Re: Two Questions

jar writes:
Good and bad depend on a human point of view.(...)The character called God in the story is not GOD

Phat writes:
Critics would argue that you cannot know GOD except by reading of His character in the Bible

But can't you tell that the God character in the Adam and Eve story is out of character with what we would normally think of as God? And isn't that part of what makes it obvious that the story is a fable?

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Message 164 of 240 (591501)
11-14-2010 1:09 PM

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11-14-2010 12:59 PM

Re: Charges of humanism versus Christianity

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My point is that it would be quite disturbing to some if the Bible was proven to be a collection of fables and human interpretations.

I don't think anybody is saying that. We are saying that the Bible is a collection, and that parts (but not all) of that collection are fables. The natural conclusion, is that we have to be discerning readers.

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