Golden Age of biblical principles?

Protestants burnt witches and heretics too.But in any case, let us for the sake of argument say that, when people went around burning other people, they were No True Christians and that these were ages in which not-really-Christianity held sway. Then these periods, therefore, were not the golden age of Biblical principles, according to Buz. We shall make a note of it.So when was?

So, I guess that wasn't a golden age.When was?

Well, your ravings aside, the question is a very simple one. When precisely, were the good old days --- the time when people were Christians and everything was just dandy?All you have to do is name a date. Any time in the last 2,000 years is good.

But I'm not saying that they were.Let us say, for the sake of argument, that when Catholics burnt Protestants and when Protestants burnt Catholics and when Protestants burnt other Protestants for being the wrong kind of Protestants, they weren't being real "NT sanctioned" Christians.Fine.But what you have been asked --- what you have been asked repeatedly --- what I am now asking you again --- is to tell us when was the Golden Age when real proper Christians were in charge and everything was hunky-dory.All you have to do is name a date. When were the Good Old Days?Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

And I am sure that this would be a great consolation to the people who were tortured and then burned alive by Protestants. When they died in agony in the flames, they must have received much consolation from the fact that some guy like you in the twenty-first century would call their suffering "minuscule and short lived". NOW WILL YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION?You and people like you lament our secular society because we have fallen away from the golden age of Christianity.When and where did this golden age take place?It's a very direct and simple question. All we want is a place and a date.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Years before I met Jar, I realized that the question a person wants to duck and evade is the question that I should press him to answer.Now, whether or not I am like jar, I should like you to answer the question.When was the Golden Age of Christianity?

Uh ... but stop me if I'm wrong ... but this is actually a lie, isn't it?It didn't actually happen, did it? It's something that someone made up, isn't it?So ... do lies have any bearing on any issue whatsoever?

To quote a wise man, I think he was called Dawn Bertot --- "nice dodge".For fuck's sake, all you have to do is name a time and a place. You won't do it, Buz won't do it ... it didn't actually exist, did it?If you think that it did, then simply name the time and the place.

Your tantrums are ... interesting.But they do not answer the question.Let me restate it. Buz seems to think that there were good old days when everyone was a Christian and therefore everything was peachy.If you disagree with this proposition, please say so. If you agree with this proposition, please tell us where and when was the Golden Age.

A time. A place.It's such a simple question.But you know, you don't have to be wrong about everything. For example, just because sane people tell you that pigs don't have wings, that doesn't mean that you have to assert that pigs have wings. Sure, creationism has driven you crazy, we can see that. But that doesn't mean that you have to believe every crazy statement. You could let this one go.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

No, no-one has said that.Buz seems to be claiming that there were Good Old Days when people lived up to Christian principles and everything was peachy.Maybe if everyone did live up to Christian principles then everything would be peachy. That's not the subject under discussion. The question is, was there a Golden Age? Is our modern secular culture actually worse than some imagined time when everyone loved Jesus? Did such a time even exist? Ah yes, the 1800s. Slavery, illiteracy, disenfranchisement of women, the Ku Klux Klan and the Civil War.The good old days.Would you actually rather live then than now? If not, then those were not the good old days.

Well, sure, there's an element of subjectivity to it.So let's hear your own subjective answer. Would you really rather live in the nineteenth century? Without inoculation, without antibiotics, without anesthesia?On the upside, your children would be taught creationism in school. On the downside, they'd be dead.

Okay, then you can stop lamenting the Golden Age which didn't actually exist. I can think of some people who might disagree with that.For example, the A'ananin, the Abenaki, the Absaalooke, the Achumawi, the Acjachemen, the Acoma, the Agua Caliente, the Adai, the Ahtna, the Ajachemen, the Akimel O'odham, the Akwaala, the Alabama-Coushatta, the Aleut, the Alutiiq, the Algonquians, the Alliklik, the Alnobak, the Alsea, the Andaste, the Anishinaabe, the Aniyunwiya, the Antoniao, the Apache, the Apalachee, the Applegate, the Apsaalooke, the Arapaho, the Arawak, the Arikara, the Assiniboine, the Atakapa, the Atikamekw, the Atsina, the Atsugewi, the Araucano, the Avoyel, the Ayisiyiniwok, the Aymara, the Aztecs, the Babine, the Bannock, the Barbareo, the Bari, the Bear River tribe, the Beaver tribe, the Bella Bella, the Bella Coola, the Beothuks, the Bidai, the Biloxi, the Black Carib, the Blackfoot, the Blood Indians, the Bora, the Caddo, the Cahita, the Cahto, the Cahuilla, the Calapooya, the Calusa, the Carib, the Carquin, the Carrier, the Caska, the Catawba, the Cathlamet, the Cayuga, the Cayuse, the Celilo, the Central Pomo, the Chahta, the Chalaque, the Chappaquiddick, the Chawchila, the Chehalis, the Chelan, the Chemehuevi, the Cheraw, the Cheroenhaka, the Cherokee, the Chetco, the Cheyenne, the Chickamaugan, the Chickasaw, the Chilcotin, the Chilula-Wilkut, the Chimariko, the Chinook, the Chipewyan, the Chippewa, the Chitimacha, the Chocheno, the Choctaw, the Cholon, the Chontal Maya, the Choynimni, the Chukchansi, the Chumash, the Clackamas, the Clallam, the Clatskanie, the Clatsop, the Cmique, the Coastal Cree, the Cochimi, the Cochiti, the Cocopa, the Coeur d'Alene, the Cofan, the Columbia, the Colville, the Comanche, the Comcaac, the Comox, the Conestoga, the Coos, the Copper River Athabaskan, the Coquille, the Cora, the Coso, the Costanoan, the Coushatta, the Cowichan, the Cowlitz, the Cree, the Creek, the Croatan, the Crow, the Cruzeo, the Cuna, the Cucupa, the Cupeo, the Cupik, the Dakelh, the Dakota, the Dakubetede, the Dawson, the Deg Xinag, the Delaware, the Dena'ina, the Dene, the Dene Suline, the Dene Tha, the Diegueno, the Dine, the Dogrib, the Dohema, the Dumna, the Dunne-za, the Eastern Inland Cree, the Eastern Pomo, the Eel River Athabascan, the Eenou, the Eskimo, the Esselen, the Etchemin, the Euchee, the Eudeve, the Excelen, the Eyak, the Fernandeno, the Flathead Salish, the Fox, the Gabrielino, the Gae, the Gaigwu, the Galibi, the Galice, the Garifuna, the Gashowu, the Gitxsan, the Gosiute, the Gros Ventre, the Guarani, the Guarijio, the Gulf Indians, the Gwich'in, the Haida, the Haisla, the Halkomelem, the Hn, the Hanis, the Hare, the Hatteras, the Haudenosaunee, the Havasupai, the Hawaiians, the Heiltsuk, the Heve, the Hiaki, the Hichiti, the Hidatsa, the Hocak, the Holikachuk, the Homalco, the Hoopa, the Hopi, the Hopland Pomo, the Hualapai, the Huelel, the Huichol, the Huichun, the Hupa, the Huron, the Illini, the Incas, the Ineseo, the Ingalik, the Innoko, the Innu, the Inuktitut, the Iowa-Oto, the Iroquois Confederacy, the Ishak, the Isleo, the Isleta, the Itza Maya, the Iviatim, the Iynu. the James Bay Cree, the Jemez, the Juaneno, the Juichun. the Kabinapek, the Kainai, the Kalapuya, the Kalina, the Kanenavish, the Kanien'kehaka, the Kalispel, the Kansa, the Karankawa, the Karkin, the Karok, the Kashaya, the Kaska, the Kaskaskia, the Kathlamet, the Kato, the Kaw, the Kenaitze, the Keres, the Kichai, the Kickapoo, the Kiliwa, the Kiowa, the Kiowa Apache, the Kitanemuk, the Kitsai, the Klahoose, the Klallam, the Klamath-Modoc, the Klatskanie, the Klatsop, the Klickitat, the Koasati, the Kolchan, the Konkow, the Konomihu, the Kootenai, the Koso, the Koyukon, the Kuitsh, the Kulanapo, the Kumeyaay, the Kuna, the Kupa, the Kusan, the Kuskokwim, the Kutchin, the Kwaiailk, the Kwakiutl, the Kwalhioqua, the Kwantlen, the Kwapa, the Kwinault, the Laguna, the Lakota, the Lakmiak, the Lassik, the Laurentian, the Lecesem, the Lenape, the Lillooet, the Lipan Apache, the Listiguj, the Lnuk, the Lokono, the Loucheux, the Loup, the Lower Chehalis, the Lower Coquille, the Lower Cowlitz, the Lower Tanana, the Lower Umpqua, the Luckiamute, the Luiseo, the Lumbee, the Lummi, the Lushootseed, the Lutuamian, the Macushi, the Mahican, the Maidu, the Maina, the Makah, the Makushi, the Maliseet, the Mandan, the Mapuche, the Maricopa, the Massachusett, the Massasoit, the Mattabesic Mattole, the Maumee, the Matlatzinca, the Mayan, the Mayo, the Mengwe, the Menominee, the Mescalero-Chiricahua, the Meskwaki, the Metis Creole, the Miami-Illinois, the Miccosukee, the Michif, the Micmac, the Migueleo, the Mikasuki, the Mi'kmaq, the Mingo, the Minqua, the Minsi, the Minto, the Miskito, the Missouria, the Miwok, the Mixe, the Mixtec, the Modoc, the Mohave, the Mohawk, the Mohegan, the Mohican, the Mojave, the Molale, the Monache, the Montagnais, the Montauk, the Moosehide, the Multnomah, the Munsee, the Muskogee, the Musqueam, the Mutsun, the Nabesna, the Nadot'en , the Nahane , the Nahuat, the Nahuatl, the Nakoda, the Nambe, the Nanticoke, the Nantucket, the Narragansett, the Naskapi, the Nass-Gitxsan, the Natchez, the Natick, the Naugutuck, the Navajo, the Nawat, the Nayhiyuwayin, the Nde, the Nee-me-poo, the Nehiyaw, the Netela, the New Blackfoot, the Newe, the Nez Perce, the Niantic, the Nicola, the Niitsipussin, the Nimiipuu, the Nipmuc, the Nisenan, the Nisga'a, the Nlaka'pamux, the Nomlaki, the Nooksack , the Nootka, the Nootsak, the Northeastern Pomo, the Northern Carrier Indians, the Northern Cheyenne, the Nottoway, the Nuu-chaa-nulth, the Nuxalk, the Obispeo, the Ocuilteco, the Odawa, the Ofo, the Ogahpah, the Ohlone, the Ojibwa, the Oji-Cree, the Okanagan, the Okwanuchu, the Old Blackfoot, the Omaha-Ponca, the Oneida, the Onondaga, the O'ob No'ok, the O'odham, the Opata, the Osage, the Otchipwe, the Otoe, the Ottawa , the Pai, the Paipai, the Paiute, the Palaihnihan, the Palewyami, the Palouse, the Pamlico, the Panamint, the Papago-Pima, the Pascua Yaqui, the Passamaquoddy, the Patuxet, the Patwin, the Paugussett, the Pawnee, the Peigan, the Pend D'Oreille, the Penobscot, the Pentlatch, the Peoria, the Pequot, the Picuris, the Piegan, the Pima, the Pima Bajo, the Pipil, the Pit River Indians, the Pojoaque, the Pomo, the Ponca, the Poospatuck, the Popoluca, the Potawatomi, the Powhatan, the Pueblo, the Puget Sound Salish tribe, the Purisimeo, the Putn, the Quapaw, the Quechan, the Quechua, the Quilcene, the Quileute, the Quinault, the Quinnipiac, the Quiripi, the Raramuri, the Restigouche, the Rumsen, the Runasimi, the Saanich, the Sac, the Sahaptin, the Salhulhtxw, the Salinan, the Salish, the Samish, the Sandia, the San Felipe, the San Ildefonso, the San Juan, the Sanpoil, the Santa Ana, the Santa Clara, the Santiam, the Santo Domingo, the Saponi, the Sarcee, the Sastean, the Satsop, the Savannah, the Sauk, the Saulteaux, the Schaghticoke, the Sechelt, the Secwepemc, the Sekani, the Selkirk, the Seminoles, the Seneca, the Seri, the Serrano, the Seshelt, the Severn Ojibwe, the Shanel, the Shasta, the Shawnee, the Shinnecock, the Shoshone, the Shuar, the Shuswap, the Siksika, the Siletz, the Similkameen, the Sinkiuse , the Sinkyone, the Sioux, the Siuslaw, the Skagit, the Skicin, the S'Klallam, the Skokomish, the Skraeling, the Skwamish, the Slavey, the Sliammon, the Sm'algyax, the Snichim, the Snohomish, the Songish, the Sooke, the Souriquois, the Southeastern Pomo, the Southern Paiute, the Spokane, the Squamish, the Stadaconan, the St'at'imcets, the Stockbridge, the Sto:lo, the Stoney, the Straits Salish, the Sugpiaq, the Suquamish, the Susquehannock, the Suwal, the Swampy Cree, the Swinomish, the Tabasco Chontal, the Tachi, the Taensa, the Tahltan, the Tagish, the Tahcully, the Taino, the Takelma, the Takla, the Taltushtuntude, the Tamyen, the Tanacross, the Tanaina, the Tanana, the Tano, the Taos, the Tarahumara, the Tataviam, the Tauira, the Teguime, the Tehachapi, the Ten'a, the Tenino, the Tepehuano, the Tequistlateco, the Tesuque, the Tetes-de-Boules, the Tewa, the Thompson, the Tigua, the Tillamook, the Timbisha, the Timucua, the Tinde, the Tinneh, the Tiwa, the Tjekan, the Tlahuica, the Tlatskanie, the Tlatsop, the Tlicho Dinne, the Tlingit, the Tohono O'odham, the Tolowa, the Tongva, the Tonkawa, the Towa, the Tsalagi, the Tsattine, the Tsekani, the Tsetsehestahese, the Tsetsaut, the Tsilhqot'in, the Tsimshian, the Tsitsistas, the Tsooke, the Tsoyaha, the Tsuu T'ina, the Tualatin, the Tubar, the Tubatulabal, the Takudh, the Tulalip, the Tumpisa, the Tunica, the Tupi, the Tuscarora, the Tutchone, the Tutelo, the Tututni, the Tuwa'duqutsid, the Twana, the Twatwa, the Uchi, the Ukiah, the Ukomnom, the Umatilla, the Unami, the Unangan, the Unkechaug, the Upper Chehalis, the Upper Chinook, the Upper Cowlitz, the Upper Tanana, the Upper Umpqua, the Ute, the Ventureo, the Virginian Algonkin , the Wailaki, the Wailatpu, the Walapai, the Walla Walla, the Wampano, the Wampanoag, the Wanapam, the Wanki, the Wappinger, the Wappo, the Warijio, the Warm Springs Indians, the Wasco-Wishram, the Washoe, the Wazhazhe, the Wea, the Wenatchi, the Wendat, the Weott, the Western Pomo, the Whilkut, the White Clay People, the Wichita, the Wikchamni, the Willapa, the Winnebago, the Wintu, the Wishram, the Witsuwit'en, the Wiyot, the Wolastoqewi, the Wyandot, the Yakama, the Yanesha, the Yaquina, the Yavapai, the Yawelmani, the Yaqui, the Yinka Dene, the Yneseo, the Yocot'an, the Yokaia, the Yokuts, the Yoncalla, the Yowlumni, the Ysleo, the Ysleta del Sur, the Yucatec Maya, the Yuchi, the Yuma, the Yupik, the Yurok, the Zapotec, the Zia, the Zimshian, the Zoque, and the Zuni.But apart from that, you guys hardly conquered anyone. "Grabbing nations"? Hardly! Not many nations, anyway. A few hundred ... is that really significant? "Empire"? Not unless half a continent counts. It's not as though it's a big continent.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

It's not my claim.If Buz went around claiming that he had a pet unicorn it wouldn't be up to me to say what he meant by "unicorn". Presumably when you wrote this gibberish you thought that it meant something.Please do tell everyone --- what is the "obvious point"? And in what sense is it "obvious"?

No. As usual, you have posted incomprehensible gibberish.I believe that you've said that English isn't your first language, but that's not your main problem. Your real problem is that the stuff you say doesn't make any darn sense --- not just in the sense that it's wrong (which it often is) but that it's meaningless. When you manage to say something so meaningful as to be actually wrong, that's you having a good day.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.