Articulating In The Debates; The Proper And The Improper.

Member Hooah, in Message 93 and a message above the one I've cited resorted to off topic personal attack on my usage of the English language and how I articulate. The purpose of this thread is to aire our thoughts on communication in the discussions and debates? Should members whose consistent communication MO consists of phrases like "Come the fuck on ........" and ".......fucking up the....."be critical of others, many of whom consider profanity to be improper and indecent in the public fora?What are some of the things that irritate you relative to how members communicate and how to improve the manner in which we discuss and debate the issues?Hooah, in Message 88, you made this charge: This is the place to help the alleged illiterate and alleged unarticulate ole man out by suggesting ways to improve on speaking proper English, etc, Hooah.Perhaps, as well, you might defend some of your English wordage which other members consider offensive and improper in the public www fora for all, young and old to read.(Perhaps Coffee house or Freeforall? )

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Oh, really? Like gauging meanings of prophecy fulfillments when in fact, evidence is cited? Case in point, Israel's ultra-phenominal latter day restoration after 1900 years of dispersion globally as Jesus and the prophets of the OT predicted? How difficult is it to gauge the meaning of that sort of Buz speak? It appears that members secularistic mindests have no desire in gauging meanings of things even remotely supportive to the Biblical record. Point well taken, but Rarely? Really? Perhaps you're exaggerating a tad by the usage of the word term, "really." I assume you noticed that I did link the message 88 number in in the same OP message.

For the record, my usage of the word was correct gramatically, according to the Online Dictionary. Question: Is there a convenient way to have spell check flag messages in EvC message previews before submitting those messages? Sometimes I resort to these tactics when counterparts in debate appear to be avoiding acknowledgement of pertinent points previously posted.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Fine and dandy for you, Hooah, but everyone knows which member is intended by the abbreviated rendition. Since you don't debate yourself, perhaps you are oblivious to the fact that some of us find it a bit inconvenient to type out your long user name not readily remembered without scrolling down the page when quoting segments of your message. I now have the spell check handy on my task bar and will begin implementing it before posting messages. Admittedly, I have been remiss in implementing this so as to conveniently apply it. No sand, Hooah, but perhaps disdain and disrespect towards members lower themselves to dumbing down their application of the English language frequently over the www and other public venues.In your phrase, "come the fuck on," have you ever thought about what the grammatical rendition of this is? Try, come the sexual intercourse on. It dumbs down the language and imo it lowers the esteem of decent speaking people for ones who frequently resort to it.Hooah, in my mind, and in, perhaps, the minds of a significant number of others who encounter you, you would not be a pleasant person to be around, impetuous and easily provoked, showing a lack of temperance, kindness and patience. Perhaps I'm mistaken. Surely your wife and children would be better judges than me on that count.The large majority of our EvC membership articulate their messages in a respectful manner indicative of having been brought up by parents and mentors who have taught them what is descent and proper in communicating to others, particularly in the public fora.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Edited by Buzsaw, : correct mistake

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Thanks, NWR. The page I accessed had definitions for both aire and air. I should have read more carefully which was which before posting. My bad. Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

For the most part your constructive points make sense. I appreciate the good spirited manner in which you stated them.I'm not understanding the subject/verb agreement problem. Can you cite an example?Relative; definition; Online Dictionary: Can you cite an example of my usage of the word which is not within the perameters of that definition?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Perhaps it offends nobody among your circle of friends and associates who consider it glorious in it's conjugations. Many would, nevertheless, find it distasteful, especially in the public fora to the extent that Hooah and a few others use it.ABE: For the most part, my points relating to civil rights had nothing to do with race. The only one which touched on race was government mandated integration to the extent of busing children for that purpose. Many among both blacks and whites oppose government mandated integration. That most church parishioners choose to attend churches of their own race is telling. Edited by Buzsaw, : Noted in context

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Crashfrog, I was four years in the USAF from 1954-1958, working mostly in the flight line hanger office and in the office among enlisted men and officers. In the barracks I lived among flight line mechanics and technicians. Among these, there was a significant percentage who never resorted to profane expletives such as fuck, shit, etc, more so among the pilots and other officers than among the lower echelon.I know times have changed significantly. With regard to both the military and in the work place, I've noticed a steady increase in the usage of profanity, especially among women and children. Rarely ever did you hear a woman use words like fuck and shit, etc sixty or seventy years ago. Children didn't dare to use them in the hearing of parents, by and large. Things began to change in the 1960s regarding many aspects in the US of A.The same applies to referencing God in vain. Now very frequently I hear children referencing God in vain in stores and restaurants in the presence of their parents.Here at EvC the only reason I've gone after Hooah for it is because of the way he chided me for the way I articulate. I have good friends who use profanity regularly. I will treat members of this cite equally in a respectful manner, including Hooah. I'm not a prude. That doesn't mean I respect the conduct of all.There are folks whom I have a good deal more respect for, who regularly resort to profanity, than some who never use it. I've been cheated out of thousands of dollars on more than one occasion over the years by professing (I say professing) Christians who never ever resorted to profanity. I trusted them. OTO, I have been blessed by others who resorted to profanity regularly.A crude speaking ex-felon who regularly uses profanity has my permission to roam my property whether or not I am home. Out of respect he rarely uses it in my presence without my mentioning it. He has gained my trust. He blesses me and I bless him as we help one another.This thread has been good for us all. I sincerely appreciate the constructive criticism of you all. I have become aware that there was some validity in Hooah's charges, but certainly not to the degree which he described it. I will work to improve on communication skills in the future. Perhaps some other members will do so as well so as to make the cite even better than it is.Imo, EvC has come a long way towards improvement from where it was seven years ago, thanks to Percy and others who've helped along the way.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

What else besides busing? Please specify and tell why it is racist.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Thanks for the advice, Dr Adequate. Maybe I'll use that word for some variety. Nevertheless we shouldn't feel the need to talk the same talk and use the same words to communicate?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

That's funny, Bluejeans. You're very perceptive.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Fair enough.

Straggler, the Bible quote from Wiki pertains to when Jerusalem was under siege and there was no food or water. It was in no wise profanity. Piss and dung were standard wordage. Urine, manure, shit, etc were not Hebrew or Greek words.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

It's a public Internet forum, if that makes any difference to you.Online Dictionary; public:

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Really? Synonyms for belittle; Merriam Webster: