Surely you mean hooah212002, which is my member name, not just Hooah. Hooah is an Army term (from which my user-id IS derived).
The purpose of this thread is to aire our thoughts on communication in the discussions and debates?
Then perhaps you would like to start using spell-check if you are so concerned? You may also want to start writing in English like the rest of us and drop the Buz-speak.
Should members whose consistent communication MO consists of phrases like "Come the fuck on ........" and ".......fucking up the....."be critical of others, many of whom consider profanity to be improper and indecent in the public fora?
Aww, did you get sand in your pussy, Buz? Do little bitty words offend you? Fuck off.
Perhaps, as well, you might defend some of your English wordage which other members consider offensive and improper in the public www fora for all, young and old to read.
You mean words you find offensive?
I will be impressed if you were to write an entire post, in your own words, that is free of any grammatical errors. This is YOUR native language, Buz.
"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.
I am a brash individual. I tell it like it is and I am not about to "be nice" just because some people are pussies. Curse words are just that: words. If you are offended by words, that's not my problem and you might want to get out into the real world.
I think that you don't like Buz.
The individual online persona that is Buzsaw is an ignorant, pig-headed, racist moron. No, I do not care for him all that much. But that doesn't matter, does it?
However, I address his posts individually and, when the time comes that he posts something of substance, I will agree with him. I have done this in the past.
Should we not try and keep our feelings to ourselves in debates,
You can if you want to......
do you think that we should "be real" about how we feel towards one another?
I don't know ANY of you, I comment on your posts that you make via your avatar. I take NO animosity from one post to the next. I address each and every post anew, so I don't think I have ANYTHING against any of you.
"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.
however when the words you use inhibit communication
They will only do so if the person reading the post allows those particular words to get in the way of the message. If I were to replace "fuck" with "fudge", none of you would say a damn thing. What is the difference? There isn't one, other than fuck is more effective.
But I wish that you would remember that we do also have many young members.
I care, why? Why should I censor myself for some kid on the internet? That same young person could just as easily head over to 4CHAN and see much worse than my curse words...... If the time were to come where Percy no longer allowed "naughty language" on EvC, I would be glad to censor my language in order to follow board rules. Until that time comes, I couldn't give a shit less. If the rest of you care so much, either don't use the language yourself, or petition Percy to ban anyone who swears.
"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.
Profanity-laced posts don't leave a very good impression.
I find that I can articulate myself just fine without the use of profanity when such a time calls for it. However, when dealing with profanely idiotic individuals or posts, profanity serves it's purpose quite nicely.
I would have to ask again: what is the real difference between the profane word itself and it's cleaner counterpart? If I were to use "crap" in place of "shit", not an eyebrow would be raised. The same goes for "fudge" in lieu of "fuck". Either word is simply a tool to express ones self. I find it comical that some of you are actually offended by words.
Furthermore, I challenge any of you to find a "profanity laced post" of mine that I posted anywhere other than the FFA section of this board.
"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.
Do you want to come across as an intelligent, science-minded grownup or not?
To be quite frank, I couldn't care less how I come across. My arguments/statements/etc. will be either taken for what they are worth or they won't. If certain individuals can't see through one curse word, they probably won't make heads nor tails of the argument had it lacked said profanity. I personally find it extremely childish to call attention to profanity, but that is just my opinion.
I presume that there are occasions when you do "censor yourself".
Of course there are. Not all of my posts on any forum are riddled with fuck and shit.
Or do you use the same language in a job interview?
I don't discuss evolution and creationism during a job interview, either. I also don't conduct job interviews online. None of you are potential employers. I don't quite see the correlation between the internet and real life. hooah212002 is not my real name and I have yet to use a picture of myself as an avatar.
"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.
Perhaps you don't care, but you should perhaps be aware that in a situation where you are trying to be as persuasive as possible, you will almost certainly lose people by swearing and by being insulting. If you curse or crudely insult others, people are going to regard you as having squandered the moral high-ground and, rightly or wrongly, they're going to ignore you. they're going to assume that you're not very nice, so therefore what you're saying must be wrong. That may be fallacious, but what do you expect from creationists?
I see your point and wholeheartedly concur. I am pretty sure that when I do have an argument of substance, I make myself clear without needing to resort to profanity.
I think that the best way is a tit-for-tat policy. If people are nice with others, I try to be nice with them.
As do I. However, the comment that fueled this post was one where Buz was actually trying to justify slavery and said that it was a good thing. The rest of you may try and reason with that, but I am more apt to cut through the bullshit and call a spade a spade.
"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.
Question: Is there a convenient way to have spell check flag messages in EvC message previews before submitting those messages?
Chrome and Firefox have spell-check enabled by default. I presume Opera and Safari do as well. I just checked IE8 and noticed it does NOT seem to have spell-check enabled by default. Suffice to say, it depends on what browser you use.
"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.
Fine and dandy for you, Hooah, but everyone knows which member is intended by the abbreviated rendition. Since you don't debate yourself, perhaps you are oblivious to the fact that some of us find it a bit inconvenient to type out your long user name not readily remembered without scrolling down the page when quoting segments of your message.
You see, Buz, you never once actually made reference to my full user name. Normally, when one utilizes an acronym, they start with the full spelling followed by the acronym they will continue to use.
No sand, Hooah, but perhaps disdain and disrespect towards members lower themselves to dumbing down their application of the English language frequently over the www and other public venues.
What? YOU are accusing ME of dumbing down the English language? Even in this post responding to me you fail at the language you profess to be a native speaker of.
In your phrase, "come the fuck on," have you ever thought about what the grammatical rendition of this is? Try, come the sexual intercourse on.
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot that the word fuck is only a synonym for sex. I shall henceforth ask you for the proper meaning of profane words.
It dumbs down the language and imo it lowers the esteem of decent speaking people for ones who frequently resort to it.
If that's not the epitome of irony, I don't know what is.
Hooah, in my mind, and in, perhaps, the minds of a significant number of others who encounter you, you would not be a pleasant person to be around, impetuous and easily provoked, showing a lack of temperance, kindness and patience. Perhaps I'm mistaken. Surely your wife and children would be better judges than me on that count.
Funny thing about that, Buz. You will notice my posts lack insight into your personal life. Any "personal" attacks I make are on that of your avatar. Never do I make any comment about you the person. That's low even for a scumbag such as yourself.
The large majority of our EvC membership articulate their messages in a respectful manner indicative of having been brought up by parents and mentors who have taught them what is descent and proper in communicating to others, particularly in the public fora.
As soon as you formulate a cogent argument that isn't full of Buz-isms and doesn't dance around the English language like a flittering butterfly, I will address your posts without the need to call you a racist moron or use "naughty words".
"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.
What makes any of you feel so special that you should have the internet censored just for you? Why should we censor ourselves just for you? They're just words, people. What really makes fuck any worse than frig used in the same context? They are words that have a stigma attached to them and you lot have decided they hurt your feelings, but why?
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.
"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.
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