Does ID follow the scientific method?

Yes, it is possible.Now show us how you use the ID method to design an experiment to test that hypothesis.

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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

I asked you to design an experiment. You're standing on the surface of a planet. You've hypothesized that it was designed as some sort of "Genesis Project". What specific data are you going to collect to test that hypothesis? What equipment will you use to collect the data? How will you analyze the data?

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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

No you didn't. I asked you to specify exactly what data you would look for to determine whether the Genesis Planet was designed. I asked you what equipment you would use and how you would analyze the data. You answered none of those questions. The question isn't "who" the designer is. The question is: How would you design an experiment to detect design in the first place. What exactly would you plunk down on the lab bench?I'm not asking for a general approach. I'm asking for one simple specific experiment.Edited by ringo, : Fixed cApitAlizatiN.

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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

I didn't ask what argument you would use. I asked what data you would collect, specifically. Would you weigh leaves? Would you test soil pH? I asked what equipment you would use, specifically. An infrared spectrometer? A gas-liquid chromatograph? I asked how you would analyze the results, specifically. Linear regression? Standard deviation?Message 131 says nothing about that. You haven't devised a specific experiment or even hinted at one.I'm not asking for vague descriptions of what a lab building looks like. I'm asking for specifics.

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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

We're not talking about "order and harmony". We're talking about intelligent design.And so far you haven't done any tests, you haven't described any tests, you haven't specified what you're testing for.I'm asking you for one simple test that you would do to identify design. What would you be holding in your hands while you're doing the test?So far, you've demonstrated that the ID method is fundamentally different from the scientific method because the scientific method does propose detailed experimental procdeures.

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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

No we're not. Nobody disputes that order and harmony exist. What you're trying to do is establish a linkage between order and harmony on the one hand and design on the other hand.We have something that exhibits order and harmony. Your hypothesis is that that order and harmony originate from a designer.Your claim is that the ID method for testing that hypothesis is the same as the scientific method. The scientific method proposes experiments to test the hypothesis, so if your method is the same as the scientific method, that's what you need to do. Certainly. I hypothesize that water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen in a ratio of 2 to 1 by volume. The equipment that I require is two test tubes, a source of electric current and a beaker of water. I propose to pass an electric current through the water and collect the separated hydrogen and oxygen gases in the test tubes, one over each electrode. If my hypothesis is correct, I will collect twice as much hydrogen as oxygen. I'll test the hydrogen (to a first approximation) by igniting it. I'll test the oxygen (to a first approximation) by inserting a glowing splint to see if it promotes combustion.I've been asking you to describe a similar experiment in similar detail for distinguishing design from natural processes.

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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

Name them. Cite their work. That's what this thread is for.

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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

Just to clarify, you're saying that the ID method is not the same as the scientific method - i.e. you're disagreeing with Dawn Bertot.

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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi

I think that's quite possible. However, the claim that Dawn has made, the claim that Dawn is supposed to be defending in this thread, is that the ID method and the scientific method are the same. Claiming that the ID method is "better" is for another thread.Edited by ringo, : Fixed quote attribution.

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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi