Does ID follow the scientific method?

The ID hypothesis is indeed dependent upon supportive evidence of an existing designer having the intelligence, ability and energy sufficient to implement an intelligently designed and managed universe.There is, in fact, evidence for the designer. The problem is that it is not studied, researched or peer aired. Elite secularist conventional media, academia and methodologies allow no consideration for that possibility.The unique Buzsaw hypothesis and theoretical conclusion is thus: Premise and hypothesis: The Universe has been designed and managed infinitely having unbounded space.

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Observation:

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Analysis: Analyze all observations via the scientific method, both conventional and alternative by expanding research, including data supportive to existing metaphysical energy and intelligence.

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Prediction:

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Theoretical Conclusion: An intelligent designer has created, destroyed, arranged and managed all existing energy and matter in the unbounded space of the Universe infinitely.
The Universe is a closed system being essentially a perpetual machine via an intelligently managed energyEdited by Buzsaw, : Add words for clarityEdited by Buzsaw, : Revise some wordingEdited by Buzsaw, : More wording improvement. Edited by Buzsaw, : Ditto

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Yah, sure, Frako, like dried clay is observed to spawn into bricks which stack up to become walls which form into beautifully designed buildings. Like unmanaged buildings which are observed to remain functional when left for years unoccupied. Yah, sure. Like all of the diversely complex elements needful for all existing things such as stars spawned into existence by happenstance? That's a matter of opinion, depending on one's scientific hypothetical premise about origins. From whence comes gravity and all of the forces needful to be in place for any order to exist. From whence comes all of the diverse forces operative on planet earth and throughout the universe so as for it to function in all of it's complexity? Ahh, the geysers and wonderfully designed diverse snowflakes. Geysers and other eruptions, such as volcanoes can be considered chaotic fissures destroying villages and forests or they can be interesting places to visit and observe.Snowflakes depend on the interpretation of the beholder's ideology. We IDists see them as wonderfully designed products of processes implemented by a supreme intelligent designer. . My apologies, Frako, for not being mindful of your local where some of our terminologies are not used. LoT is short for the scientific laws of thermodynamics. Mmm, yes, but alas, that alibi never works for ID creationists That depends on from who's perspective. Secularist research applies exclusively to discovering naturalistic phenomena.Your questions about unbounded space, etc entail a different topic.Frako, when my spellcheck came up with your quotes I was concerned that the system might crash. Edited by Buzsaw, : Missed one on the spell check

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

No I don't. Read me carefully. Note that word, "evidence." Where there is evidence there should be science. There are some IDSM scientists applying the SM who's chances of getting peered, studied in academia, researched by conventional science or aired in the public media are near nil. Edited by Buzsaw, : Change IDM to IDSM

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Oh. Well then, how about we apply that to anti-matter? Here's one example. Assemble all of the data in the Biblical Record about the alleged Exodus. As explorer/researcher Ron Wyatt, Lennart Moller and others have done, go on expeditions to research the area which the Biblical Historical Record cites as the region of the alleged event. Document the supportive evidences which are discovered, etc.Why do the SM scientists such as National Geographic's Robert Ballard and other secularists have no interest in either falsifying the alleged evidence or verifying it?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Let's recap before alleging Buz off topic.Taq alleged that no evidence has ever been cited supportive to the existence of the Biblical intelligent designer. I responded by citing one of my examples of supportive evidence. Taq responded with the implication that the designer should be seen. I alluded to antimatter which also has never been seen, etc.Though digression into aspects of topic debate could lead off topic, imo, the exchange between Taq and me did not.ABE: Go to Message 163 and follow the designated response message trail at the bottom of each response. Edited by Buzsaw, : as noted

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

The metaphysical SM would include possibilities, causes and evidence of what exists in space and time. The SM of the metaphysical involves aspects of both the physical and the metaphysical. Metaphysics Metaphysics includes the undefined science of ".......physics, philosophy, existence, time and space, astrobiology, perception......."The term meta means beyond.. It includes phenomena beyond the physical relative to what it is and what it is like.ABE: Evidencing the metaphysical would/should include research supportive of the metaphysical aspects of the Exodus alluded to in this thread. Edited by Buzsaw, : Forgot spellcheckEdited by Buzsaw, : As noted

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Taq, I see you emphasised the word, METHODOLOGIES. I'll up you some on emphasising. I'll emphasise, "ELITE SECULARIST CONVENTIONAL MEDIA, ACADEMIA AND METHODOLOGIES ALLOW NO CONSIDERATION FOR THAT POSSIBILIY. "You missed my valid point that conventional SM is incomplete whereas the metaphysical science methodology, call it MSM, is the complete science which researches, studies and airs both, the ID metaphysical evidence and the physical evidence, a classic example being the Exodus Case book and aired Exodus Video revealing the findings of the MSM which was applied in that research. Oh wow! How to spin valid evidence! Fact is derived from evidence. No? Mmm, not really. It's more like, evidence applied to test hypotheses determines whether hypotheses qualify factually for the MSM. The hypothesis has been tested over many expeditions by numerous explorers and scientific researchers and the results of a valid evidenced hypothesis published.Where do you get that "null" nonsense? It has yet to be nullified. Where are the SM marine researchers, such as the renowned Robert Ballard? They're all out to lunch on anything alluding to MSM. It's all researched and the MSM has been applied. The results and conclusions have all been published. Don't look for it in the bully pulpit peer reviews. Their SM is incomplete, biasly ignoring the MSM data in their exclusive elitist circles where IDSM scientists need not apply.Taq, you people keep on keeping on hollering for evidence and other SM data when all you need to do is view the researched MSM evidence on Lennart Moller's Exodus Video or read his excellent book, THE EXODUS CASE which peers, if you will, the MSM scientifically researched data.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

No, of course not. It's not out until it's falsified. That's the job of your SM people who are out to lunch. Until it is falsified it's in. Don't wait for conventional biased peer reviews to declare it empirical. LoL on that! Taq, why do you keep asking answered questions? Your first question in this message was answered in your next quote of me. Hello! Go, read carefully and figure.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Tell you what, Jar and Jonsey. Copy and paste my stuff, as Taq has done and go at refuting the pertinent points posted as Taq has attempted to do. Then I'll respond.ABE: Dr Jones: Aside from your smartass remarks, you did teach me something. Thanks. Null means non-factual. I have never heard of the term null hypothesis until I looked it up. Lo and behold, (no surprise) what considered to be non-factual on main street America, SM elitists in academia apply as valid. Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted in text.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

Thanks for addressing one of my pertinent topic points, Ringo.I'm not disagreeing with Dawn totally. I'm reinforcing Dawn's position by explaining how the metaphysical Science Method (MSM) is a more complete science methodology than the biased scientific methodology (MS). MSM researches all sciences, both physical and metaphysical whereas MS limits their methodology to the physical. Thus the MSM is the more complete and non-biased science methodology.I believe Dawn and I agree on this. Perhaps Dawn will weigh in on whether that is the case.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

This is what those opposing ID as science do. As in this trial, Behe's opponents resorted to one of the least valid examples of IDSM which is astrology. Unlike the Biblical record, astrology has no evidential legitimacy having precious little to support it. There are no credible scientists who study the scientific validity of astrology that I am aware of.Likely what Behe meant by his answer to the court was that it could, legally, but would have no reason to include astrology. Instead of digressing he simply answered in the affirmative.
His critics took that ball and ran with it all over the Internet and science fora as you are doing.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.

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