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Author Topic:   Does ID follow the scientific method?
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Message 17 of 325 (591811)
11-16-2010 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Dawn Bertot
11-15-2010 11:36 PM


Re: Confusion Still Exists
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Message 20 of 325 (591828)
11-16-2010 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dawn Bertot
11-05-2010 1:09 AM


DB writes:
These basics are of course:
Observation, evaluation, experimentation (tests), corroboration, determination, predictions (if you will) and of course conclusions
The start seems like a good place to start:
Please describe an example of an observation made by IDM.
Also, I do not currently understand how 'determination' is linked to the scientific method.
Please ellaborate on what you mean by 'determination'.

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Message 44 of 325 (592067)
11-18-2010 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Dawn Bertot
11-18-2010 2:20 AM


Re: Finally the Scientific Method of Intelligent Design
DB writes:
His evaluations had to involve presuppositions (SMs)and then conclusions, correct?
'Presuppositions' is not a synonym for 'Scientific Methods', so to answer your question: no - not correct.

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Message 50 of 325 (592124)
11-18-2010 9:56 PM


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Message 69 of 325 (592210)
11-19-2010 6:25 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Dawn Bertot
11-19-2010 1:57 AM


Re: Design vs. non-design
Dawn Bertot writes:
It has been alleged in the following posts that I have no stated my position, this is wrong.
You are prescient?
Well, maybe you meant to say 'previous posts'.
Dawn Bertot writes:
I will state it again and see if perhaps you will attempt to answer it
How are we meant to answer a statement?
Well, maybe you meant to say 'address it'.
Ok - let's see you state your position.
Dawn Bertot writes:
What besides the categories of Observation, experimentation, evaluation, and prediction does the SM use that we do not?
Secondly if we use the same methods why is ours considered NOT science
Hmmm...2 questions.
Well, maybe you meant to say...nope, I can't guess.

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Message 71 of 325 (592216)
11-19-2010 6:43 AM
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11-19-2010 2:16 AM


Re: Hypotheses
Dawn Bertot writes:
Your goal is to simply demonstrate what you use that we do not and then show why ours is not science, or a scientific approach
Again, you start a thread and then expect everyone to run around doing your homework for you.
YOU made the first post.
YOU claim that IDM is as valid as SM.
It is YOU that must provide evidence for your assertion.

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Message 126 of 325 (592462)
11-20-2010 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 112 by Dawn Bertot
11-20-2010 4:14 AM


Re: One step would be to define what ID isn't
Hi, Dawn.
I would like to do one thing.
I would like you to write a post containing four lines. This is what I would like to see on those four lines:
  1. A real world example of IDM making observations of the natural world.
  2. A real world example of IDM formulating a hypothesis based on those observations.
  3. A real world example of IDM experimenting to test that hypothesis.
  4. A real world example of IDM forming a theory based on the results of the experiment.
*acknowledges Bluejay*

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Message 191 of 325 (592644)
11-20-2010 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by Dawn Bertot
11-20-2010 4:36 PM


Re: One step would be to define what ID isn't
Bluejay writes:
I don't understand why you think this is a sufficient answer. It's a generic, baseless assertion. In order to meet the criteria of the question, it needs to be specific, and supported with evidence.
Please model your responses after the example I gave in Message 141: doing so will amply demonstrate your point, if indeed your point is true.
I couldn't agree more.
Dawn Bertot: give an example of what you are claiming!
Show:
If what you claim is so obvious then presenting an example should be child's play.
NB: The answer to a question is not another question, unless you are avoiding giving an answer.
*waves at Bluejay*
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Message 321 of 325 (593444)
11-27-2010 6:26 AM
Reply to: Message 319 by Dawn Bertot
11-27-2010 2:39 AM


Re: An example!
DB writes:
We observe identifiable and testable order in any physical example
How do you identify order?
How do you test for order?
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