Deconversion experiences

Just keep questioning all the answers and you'll do fine.It's pretty clear that none of the Gods we can discuss are much more than Gods created by man, particularly ALL the different Gods in the Christian Bible.Don't worry, if and when you actually do meet a GOD you can decide if its real.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

And of course, the evidence is that eating the fruit did NOT have the effect God said it would have.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Of course you can. But that has nothing to do with any deconversion experiences.The issue is whether there is any disadvantage to an experience such as Meldinoor went through?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

However you offer no evidence that the images show something designed by God.In addition, you did not address the question.The issue is whether there is any disadvantage to an experience such as Meldinoor went through?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Most folk also seem to be clueless about what Blaise was actually saying.He was pointing out two things, that decision trees and probability work and also that living and making life decisions as though you might be judged really has no downside.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

The Biblical Gods, not just the Christian God. It's just very easy to point out how we create Gods in the Judaic religions.Look at the god in Genesis 1 compared to the god in Genesis 2. They are totally different, the former, younger god is overarching, extremely competent, creating by act or will alone with no hesitations, no revisions, but also aloof, separate, not interacting at all with the creation. The older latter god is quite different, very human, unsure, learning on the job, a hands on tinkerer, fearful, but also personal, interacting with the creation, directly and intimately involved.A religion is a map, and like all maps it almost surely contains errors, omissions, areas where it is more accurate and areas where it is just plain wrong. It is a map, not the Territory.With me so far?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

But none of those are related to what I posted.If you live life, examine each act as though you will be judged based on that act, you will try to act right.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

I see no problems there.The error when you look at 9-11 is thinking it was religiously based. The motive of the terrorist was to change US and Western policy, the same old motives as have always been present; power, money, land, respect.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Club Christian is a very broad group.I'm not at all sure that I could even describe the "Christian Faith" accurately, just struggle with my chapter.A Map is only good when you constantly test it against the territory itself. Just because the Map says the bridge is there you cannot ignore the sign that says "Bridge out".Personally I think one of the biggest problem with Christianity was the creation of a Bible. As soon as we made a list of which scrolls were in and which scrolls were out and mushed them all up together into one volume we lost the perspective that they really are just a collection of separate stories written by different people for different purposes at different time and meant for different audiences.We limited GOD; put GOD in a box of our own making.You mention of the slaughter of innocents is a great example. I always suggest looking at the stories in context. Often that changes the perspective.Please understand, I am not in anyway trying to discourage your "deconversion". I think it can be a great thing, a wonderful learning experience. And I think most of the Gods Christianity markets should be thrown away. If there is a GOD, and I believe there is, it is certainly not the Christian God or a Hindu God or a Greek God or a Norse God; GOD will not be something we can accurately describe, box, label, limit, control.I am a Christian most likely because quite honestly, I was born and raise within the Christian faith. It is MY path.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Huh?Why do any of us fail?What does that have to do with what I pointed out?I don't think I suggested that you should believe in anything.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

You're still relatively new here and so I will point you to my Belief Statement thread found at Message 69.I don't know if it will help but it will give some insight on my journey.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Start a thread on the subject and I'll be glad to discuss it with you.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Kinda.We need to behave as though our behavior will be judged whether or not there really is a judge.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

But we actually make more choices than just that one.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Nonsense.It is most certainly not the antithesis of the Gospel of Grace, unless you mean the shallow one taught by much of Christianity today.If you start a thread on that subject I'd be happy to contribute, but it does not really seem on topic for this thread.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!