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Recent paper with an ID spin? Abel and Trevors (2005).

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09-25-2005 9:32 AM 		Reply to: Message 11 by Percy
09-25-2005 3:36 AM

I've sent PubMed an email inquiry.
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I was going to ask. Thanks. Let us know the result?
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My opinion of the paper was that it was intentionally obscuring its points with gargonisms, a problem that occurs in a lot of scientific papers (due to thought "in-breeding"?), but in this case not really saying anything in the process. Your points on "reference padding" only reinforced that opinion.
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I would say they are studying the physical appearance of scientific papers and evolving their argument's camouflage to match.
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09-26-2005 7:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 15 by Percy
09-26-2005 9:34 AM

any link between the "publishers" and ID? the paper?
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11-02-2006 6:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 21 by Silent H
11-02-2006 11:06 AM

Re: Abel and Trevors at it again
The distinction between "ordering" and "organization", with crystalization in the former and some unnamed process involving "choice contingency" in the latter, sound similar to the claims/distinctions Dembski makes in his writings.
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Yeah, that struck me as the redefinition sidestep. Seems to me the criteria they set for not being "ordering" means the organisms need to have a brain, and that's pretty far into what I would consider "organization".
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Looks like the old "we'll call it something else so we can pretend" that organization in simple systems does not occur.
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