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frako Member Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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God sent aliens to transport noas ark in to their ships holodeck, where they simulated a flood while transporting noa to a new planet earth because the last one was going to be destroyed.
When they got here they also planted fossils of pre humans to not make this so obvious. They just lacked the technology to make the world apheare to have suffered a worldwide flood.
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Portillo Member (Idle past 4419 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
quote: Considering they raised millions quite easily to build the museum, Im sure they can get money for the ark.
quote: MSN | Outlook, Office, Skype, Bing, Breaking News, and Latest Videos Edited by Portillo, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 97 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Which fully explains Creationism and the Intelligent Design movement. The Christian Cult of Ig-norance is a Gold Mine.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2750 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Considering they raised millions quite easily to build the museum, Im sure they can get money for the ark. The real question is why bother? Someone already has a seaworthy lifesize ark built. Well, "seaworthy" is being generous. It floats. Let's just say that. Page Not Found - Earth Changes and the Pole Shift
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Dogmafood Member Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
From your source,
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2750 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined:
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Actually, not that outrageous a dream if you think about it.
Not a great solution to that dream, but then again, I think he's just building a tourist destination for Christians. No one ever went broke collecting money from Christians.
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ZenMonkey Member (Idle past 4768 days) Posts: 428 From: Portland, OR USA Joined: |
I still stand by my Robot Monkey hypothesis as the most parsimonious explanation of how the Ark worked. No creationist or biblical literalist has been able to refute it yet. However, I must admit that the Holodeck Thesis has a lot going for it as well. Any scientific theory that can include Jean Luc Picard as a mechanism is all right by me.
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Portillo Member (Idle past 4419 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
Thats a nice generalisation of the American public.
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frako Member Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Found the solution Transdimentionalengineering
He had enough room to store all the food he wanted and he could just dumb the shit down to a noter larger room simple.
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deerbreh Member (Idle past 3151 days) Posts: 882 Joined: |
In 1974, Pastor Richard Greene was repeatedly told by Jesus to build an Ark next to the interstate. The ark would be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high. Through a series of "miracles," materials and expertise was donated to get the project started in 1976. Greene has traveled around the world to show off the architect's drawings and plans, but things seemed to have stalled out at times. "As God provides, we will build."
Noah's Ark Being Rebuilt, Frostburg, Maryland He started the project in 1976. In 1999 a steel superstructure was erected but apparent progress has been nil since then.I guess "God is providing" at his own pace. OTOH by the historical standard for arks I guess he is way ahead of schedule. Some Ark apologists believe old Noah was at it for 120 years although this is vigorously disputed by other Ark apologists (and no one disputes more vigorously than an Ark apologist). Note: This "ark" is an earthbound building (well, building skeleton at the moment). If it ever gets built (doubtful unless a deep pocket donor shows up) it will be a conference/educational center - or maybe an ark theme park, who knows. Edited by deerbreh, : No reason given.
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Dirk Member (Idle past 4281 days) Posts: 84 Joined: |
Someone already has a seaworthy lifesize ark built. Well, "seaworthy" is being generous. It floats. Let's just say that.
It floats, that's true. But it only does so because it is built on top of modern steel barges
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MiguelG Member (Idle past 2234 days) Posts: 63 From: Australia Joined: |
Hi Razd,
Heh, hope you get to read this - I know I've been rather a long time missing from here. If we were indeed using the literal meaning of seaworthy then most of the ancient ship designs of the Diadochi period would fail to be 'seaworthy'. The 4s, 5s, 6s and right up to 16s would fail the definition of surviving "90%" of weather conditions. Many of these enormous war galleys did indeed succumb to the vagaries of Mediterranean weather as surviving records indicate, and yet this did not stop rulers like Ptolemy and his opponents from building them because they conferred a tactical advantage in a sea battle (or indeed merely for prestige's sake or to awe the other side). My point was that even a barge (which can certainly make a sea voyage - in calm weather*) is seaworthy sometimes. * Most ancient admirals did not like to risk their fleets in stormy weather since most galleys (especially the larger ones) were notorioulsy prone to sinking in such conditions. I would also like to, once again, note that whilst I am arguing that large wooden vessels are technically possible (given the ancient references to the existence of some very large examples), it is counterproductive to belabor creationists and Ark-enthusiasts about the Ark being an 'impossible' vessel to either build or float. Far better to attack the Ark myth with the many other logical fallacies inherent in it, like the inability to keep a representative pair of every animal on Earth onboard for even a few days, much less 40.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1663 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi MiguelG and welcome back
I would also like to, once again, note that whilst I am arguing that large wooden vessels are technically possible (given the ancient references to the existence of some very large examples), it is counterproductive to belabor creationists and Ark-enthusiasts about the Ark being an 'impossible' vessel to either build or float. I have previously discussed the issues of scale on the strength and stiffness of an Ark-like vessel, and noted that the purported ark did not have rigging or the stresses due to rigging. But this also means there is no stabilizing mechanism for such a vessel, which is the main issue I have with a barge like design. To my mind this makes the vessel possible to build but extremely uncomfortable (to say the least) to ride out storms in. But I agree that such discussions are ultimately counter-productive and that discussions for and against the global flood on other issues are more to the point. For instance the fossil record show fossils on virtually every mountaintop, but those fossils show undisturbed marine ecosystems that have organisms decades old, in layer after layer, and so the evidence does not match the duration for the purported flood by any stretch of imagination that I can see that would benefit a creationist viewpoint.
Far better to attack the Ark myth with the many other logical fallacies inherent in it, like the inability to keep a representative pair of every animal on Earth onboard for even a few days, much less 40. Plus the time it takes for the water to recede enough to uncover land. IIRC this amounts to almost a year afloat in an environment devoid of potable water and increasingly foul bilges. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Gullwind1 Junior Member (Idle past 4688 days) Posts: 12 Joined: |
From my reading, the largest galleys mentioned to support the claim of wooden ships the size of the ark were not actually as big as they seem. The Tesseriaconteras (I think I spelled that right) built by Ptolemy Philopater was actually two galleys attached side-by-side with a large ram stuck on the front, so while similar in overall dimensions, it had nowhere near a similar internal capacity, and other than a short trip in harbor, never moved again for fear it would break apart.
It really seems that the problems inherent with wooden ships this large is an argument against the Ark, rather than for it. Edited by Gullwind1, : No reason given.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3926 days) Posts: 2822 Joined:
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Christianity is stuffing up again, distorting the Hebrew bible to kingdom come, with no history of ever observing this scripture. This is also done in the depiction the earth as 6000 years old: anyone who reads will see that Genesis lists numerous events before the creational days, accounting for bllions of years travserved before life emerged: how long does it take for water to be seperated from the lands - or light from darkness!?
The Ark represents a domestic, regional flood; the boat for Noah's possessions only [the text]; but to the people of tht town it appears the whole world was under water. Of course it would and this is a correct depiction of people in that time. Tasmania, Norway and Rio never yet existed!
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