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Thugpreacha
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Message 26 of 1043 (595194)
12-07-2010 10:34 AM


Whine & Cheese
Is this a real Whine List? Looks like its all over but the shouting! Just to add my 2 cents, however.... I believe that all members of this forum should try and do everything within our power to make our posts as readable as possible. Occasionally, I make a mistake such as using a smaller case h for Him (my creator) or a larger case F (when referring to our father) Who may only be worthy of capitalization within the context of my belief)

Basically, I try my best to capitalize sentences only because I have not yet earned the right to be famous NOT doing it, such as ee cummings.


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Message 751 of 1043 (733934)
07-22-2014 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 745 by hooah212002
07-22-2014 8:51 PM


Debate & Discussion Are The Fruits Of This Place
The entire issue is what standard should be held.

Obviously, creationists do not hold the same standard for criteria as to what constitutes evidence as do others. If everyone had precisely the same standards, there would be minor debate. Besides, having to defend your positions makes you ever stronger in your beliefs.


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Message 806 of 1043 (761420)
07-01-2015 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 805 by JonF
07-01-2015 8:21 AM


WRONG!
Hey its America. Land of free choice. Coke or Pepsi. Logic or Belief.

Satan or Psychosis.

I promoted her. Granted she isn't disciplined. Granted she may be promoting her own religious agenda.

Still....she is a creationist. We don't simply have one type of thinking here.


God created war so that Americans would learn geography. –Mark Twain
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Thugpreacha
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Message 808 of 1043 (761484)
07-01-2015 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 807 by JonF
07-01-2015 1:24 PM


Goodbye Suzanne
She has told us she is leaving. I really had hopes that she would stay and get to know us...our unique personality quirks, our logic, our reasoning, and our kind souls. I tend to give newer members a bit more leeway in topic proposals and would have tolerated one topic all over the place as long as their was no overt attempt to spam or advertise. Even that will be mildly tolerated for an older EvC member---but nobody does it so we don't have an issue with any of our 141 active members or 8342 total.

All I can say to those of you who insist upon logic, reason, and reality is that I will defend any new member no matter how illogical they are even in the science forums as long as they understand that they will be challenged by all of you and not to take it personally. Its a rare breed who can handle such a gauntlet, however.


God created war so that Americans would learn geography. –Mark Twain
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Thugpreacha
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Message 812 of 1043 (761502)
07-02-2015 3:05 AM
Reply to: Message 809 by Jon
07-01-2015 8:05 PM


Re: Goodbye Suzanne
Jon writes:

Even when they break forum rules, ignore moderator requests, and show no signs whatsoever of wanting an actual discussion?

Percy suggests that we warn then act. I had warned her and was hoping she would slowly improve. i was prepared to give her awhile...and i was not planning on promoting more (of her)topics....but alas...she didn't really want a discussion.

She wanted to promote---"to help (something) happen, develop, or increase" ---namely that website she showed us. I asked her what was in it for her and she left without responding.

Dont you see the importance of giving people a chance, however?


God created war so that Americans would learn geography. –Mark Twain
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Message 814 of 1043 (761513)
07-02-2015 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 813 by JonF
07-02-2015 8:49 AM


Re: Goodbye Suzanne
thanks. I'll remember to be more careful

God created war so that Americans would learn geography. –Mark Twain
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Message 886 of 1043 (811696)
06-10-2017 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 885 by Tangle
06-10-2017 4:00 PM


If Davidjay gets suspended permanently it will not be because he posts illogical content. It will be due to disrespect of other members and/or excessive spamming. We are not looking to ban any loon that comes along. David has actually made some decent posts over in Faith & Belief...and you can't demand evidence over there anyway.

For now, he will be unable to post in the science forums.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Thugpreacha
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Message 942 of 1043 (815474)
07-20-2017 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 930 by Faith
07-20-2017 10:37 AM


Re: Faith's latest hate rant
Faith writes:

Catholics "say prayers," Protestants talk to God, as I do a lot.

Every time that I talk with God, it is usually a prayer---at least in my mind. I am not always so formal and, at times, I have even ranted at God...but I know to respect Him. God could care less whether someone is a liberal or a conservative. God knows the sins and character flaws of all of our hearts.

His ways are not our ways.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 949 of 1043 (815483)
07-20-2017 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 946 by Faith
07-20-2017 12:20 PM


Re: Faith's latest hate rant
Faith writes:

Apparently you aren't familiar with the difference between "saying" prayers and praying, Phat.

I'm quite familiar with the difference.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Thugpreacha
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Message 999 of 1043 (836908)
07-24-2018 4:52 AM
Reply to: Message 998 by jar
07-22-2018 5:40 PM


Re: AdminPhat seems ignorant of what discussion means.
All I am doing is standing up for Faith for a change. Granted she never acknowledges your numerous (many, many) posts where you ask her for evidence...but the fact is that she does not feel a need to do so. She has her belief and asks only that people respect it...no matter how lacking in evidence it might be. This may be the dogma of her culture, but it deserves more than pity and ridicule.
quote:
The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Thugpreacha
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Message 1003 of 1043 (836968)
07-25-2018 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1001 by jar
07-24-2018 8:08 AM


Re: AdminPhat seems ignorant of what discussion means.
She has shown she is unwilling or unable to provide evidence to support her beliefs.

So just how can we discuss the book?

Criticize the book and its author rather than Faith herself. We all know each other by now and we know that she will never play your game of evidence nor challenge orthodox interpretations. Better to move the topic forward by challenging the author and providing counter-arguments rather than expect Faith to have to question her own beliefs. It will never happen.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Thugpreacha
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Message 1005 of 1043 (836975)
07-25-2018 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1004 by jar
07-25-2018 9:13 AM


Re: AdminPhat seems ignorant of what discussion means.
Asking her to provide evidence, pointing out that she cannot or will not support her assertions is not criticizing her but rather commenting on the fact that the book is simply another example of cult dogma.
Approaching a discussion that way is simply your attempt to frame the issue the way that you feel it needs to be framed before the public. In her mind, it is disrespectful. It does not allow her an alternative stage to present the issue the way that she feels needs to be presented to the public (or at least those who share her views).
The author is afraid to join in the discussion it seems.
The author never has a pleasant discussion with you, though. She is continually asked to answer your questions, provide evidence, or feels as if she is losing a debate that she never wanted. Granted this is a discussion board. And yes, you were taught to defend your views years ago and seem to respect that mode of debate. All she wants is another stage next to the one she sees as liberal and leftist. She wants a stage on the right.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Message 1020 of 1043 (844017)
11-24-2018 6:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1018 by caffeine
11-22-2018 2:00 PM


Ignored No Longer
Just promoted you. Hope you get some responses.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Message 1025 of 1043 (844509)
12-01-2018 8:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1023 by RAZD
12-01-2018 7:55 AM


Re: PorknCheese
Double Post

Edited by Phat, : Double Post


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Message 1031 of 1043 (857385)
07-08-2019 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1030 by Theodoric
07-07-2019 5:25 PM


Re: Faith and Dwise1
Well just more evidence that the ****** Faith and Dredge, are moderated differently than the non-fundies. Typical.
Typical of what? If you are suggesting bias, you would be wrong. Go hug a tree or save a whale or something.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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