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Author Topic:   General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')
AdminPhat
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Message 321 of 1049 (642700)
11-30-2011 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 319 by hooah212002
11-30-2011 4:24 PM


Forum Rule#10
Its rule 10, Hooah. We expect civility out of intelligent people.

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Message 323 of 1049 (642703)
11-30-2011 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by hooah212002
11-30-2011 4:56 PM


Re: Forum Rule#10
personally, I thought this topic more appropriate for Faith/Belief.

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Message 895 of 1049 (811741)
06-11-2017 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 890 by Davidjay
06-11-2017 12:02 AM


Two Weeks For David
I have taken action against Davidjay for again trolling and posting multiple off-topic posts on numerous topics.
DJJ writes:
I might get the right to hang in there for a few more days because one administrator and I agree on Paul and his unChristian words against the Lord...and his a-sexual teachings against women and the Lord himself.
I'm not sure who this administrator is...I certainly have never perceived Paul as unChristian. But we won't ever get the opportunity for a conversation because you can't keep your keyboard restrained. That by definition is trollish behavior. You sound like a decent guy to get to know, but in the digital world of social media, there are rules and protocol to follow if your goal is to actually communicate rather than talk talk talk and spam spam spam.
DJJ writes:
My writings justify me, and accuse the out of control frustrated evolutionists.
This is why your behavior is unacceptable. You have no need to justify yourself nor accuse anyone else. And yet you feel you do.
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  • Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
  • Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation.
  • The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.

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    AdminPhat
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    Message 1008 of 1049 (841972)
    10-24-2018 2:15 PM
    Reply to: Message 1007 by Faith
    10-24-2018 2:03 PM


    Re: Bible Inerrancy thread
    I'll reopen it after a few hours but I want to encourage you to behave kinder towards others (such as GDR) and stop trying to make the thread all about what you believe as some sort of established fact---when it is not. You know the rules here...this isn't simply your private blog. Forum Guidelines
    Granted your opponents are often not any nicer to you....I saw the topic as getting out of hand. Let it cool down a few hours.

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    Message 1024 of 1049 (844508)
    12-01-2018 8:47 AM
    Reply to: Message 1023 by RAZD
    12-01-2018 7:55 AM


    Re: PorknCheese
    What I have decided to do is temporarily close his first topic and deal with the arguments in the ID Forum. I ask that all of you not try and overwhelm him or any viewer with your plethora of information, but, rather...take it slow and address the arguments being made by the ID proponents. You can start with the two researchers whom I referenced in my Admin reply to him. Make brief replies to specific arguments...don't attempt to teach a class. The ball is also in Pork n Cheeses corner to try and respond to your arguments perhaps by asking questions as he learns more about what ID is and how it differs from the science which you learned from in your professions.
    A lot of times you guys engage in light banter with each other in these topics and throw the whole thing off course.
    Edited by Phat, : No reason given.
    Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given.

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    Message 1027 of 1049 (844525)
    12-01-2018 1:08 PM
    Reply to: Message 1026 by Tanypteryx
    12-01-2018 11:15 AM


    Re: PorknCheese
    Would you prefer to have no creationist, Intelligent Design, or otherwise opponents at all to debate with? Faith certainly doesn't qualify---she knows her own beliefs, but has no evidence-based argument with which to respond. MikeTheWiz never comes around much anymore. I saw an opportunity to promote an Intelligent Design Topic and I ran with it. Keep in mind that a lot of people read these topics who we never see. My only expectation is for you, JonF, RAZD, Tangle, Caffeine, dWise1, and others to conduct yourselves professionally, politely, and briefly..addressing the argument at an entry level pace that the rest of we readers can understand. If pork n cheese never replies or is again rude, this will be his last topic. That's all I have to say regarding my actions.

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    AdminPhat
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    Message 1029 of 1049 (857316)
    07-07-2019 3:35 PM


    Faith and Dwise1
    [ This is a reply to Message 1156 of the I Know That God Does Not Exist thread. --Admin ]
    Dwise1 writes:
    Thuggee Admin:
    I still say that nobody could possibly be as utterly clueless and unaware as Faith pretends to be. She's putting on an act like a typical creationist troll.
    And I still maintain that she does not worship the Christian God but rather an evil god whom she serves through lies. Given her pretend theological bend, I would identify her god as the Lord of Lies, the Prince of Darkness. All the evidence points in that direction.
    And I still ask that somebody explain to her those extremely simple facts that she willfully refuses to understand.
    Fair enough, lets go back and review the exchange. I am going to take this response over to General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List') Meet me there. *poof*....see? Magic can happen.
    OK lets review this exchange, Duane.
    I just was a bit aghast as to how you could have let this woman push your buttons to the point that you wanted to choke her! I rarely moderate most of our exchanges unless it gets into cuss words and/or blatant defamation of character.
    Here is the post in question which I moderated. I will reproduce it in full, for the peanut gallery to see:
    **************************************************************************
    Faith writes:
    I read it! What I'd said wasn't intended to be anything more than an attempt to say materialism and naturalism are basically the same words.
    Dwise1 writes:
    No you did not!!! As is blatantly obvious to all observers! You forking lying ####!
    Those are not basically the same words. You read nothing! You lying ####!
    As I stated in such clear terms that even a lying deceptive c##t such as yourself could not fail to comprehend:
    quote:
    What science uses is Methodological Naturalism. That takes no philosophical position concern the existence of the supernatural nor of any supernatural entities. Rather, it is the very practical realization that science cannot work with the supernatural. Period! That also means that supernaturalistic explanations cannot be used in science because there is no way to even begin to observe or test them.
    AdminPhat writes:
    Stop with these types of verbal reactions or face suspension.
    *************************************************************
    Seems to me that you reproduced the quote that you made and are accusing her of ignoring the point of the quote. Am I correct so far?
    OK, lets go back.
    Msg 1140--
    Dwise1 writes:
    Uh, still completely off the mark. You should have read what I had written!
    What ID calls "the Gospel of materialism" is Philosophical Materialism/Naturalism. That is a philosophical position that the natural universe is all that there is, that the supernatural does not exist. It has absolutely nothing to do with the naturalistic methods of science!
    What science uses is Methodological Naturalism. That takes no philosophical position concern the existence of the supernatural nor of any supernatural entities. Rather, it is the very practical realization that science cannot work with the supernatural. Period! That also means that supernaturalistic explanations cannot be used in science because there is no way to even begin to observe or test them.
    Now since you are going to continue to be willfully stoopid and refuse to read any more than one or two words, could somebody else please explain these very simple facts to this willfully stoopid ####?
    Msg 1141--
    Faith writes:
    I read it! What I'd said wasn't intended to be anything more than an attempt to say materialism and naturalism are basically the same words.
    My basic gripe was that you were letting Faith push your buttons. Perhaps she sees this in a different perspective than you do. Feel free to rant more and fully explain your case here. Faith is also free to defend her side of it.
    As a third party, perhaps I should start by asking the question: Are Materialism and Naturalism the same thing? I've no time to research, but I would assume that if anyone made such a claim they would know the answer.
    Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.
    Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given.
    Edited by Admin, : Add comment about what this post is a response to.

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    Message 1045 of 1049 (888298)
    09-11-2021 12:05 PM
    Reply to: Message 1044 by AZPaul3
    09-11-2021 11:15 AM


    Re: LNA Suspension
    Your appeal is noted. Allow me to share with you my reasoning.
    LamarkNewAge has been at this forum for 6 years. He should by now know the Forum Guidelines. Granted e all waver from them a bit, and I personally feel that this is allowable.
    (Otherwise, I would have to suspend Phat permanently. )
    But let us note LNA's behavior in his own thread! The thread was LNA's response to E Pluribus Unum: Findings from the Cato Institute 2021 Immigration and Identity National Survey
    he survey of 2,600 U.S. adults seeks to explore and examine why Americans support or oppose a more open immigration regime.
    LNA is passionate about the subject of immigration in general and has full right to his opinions on the matter. As I browse his responses(again...I made my initial 2-day suspension based on what he said to others) I will show you his pattern and my objection to his methodology.
    In Message 13 he starts gently reminding his opponent (dwise1) to stay on topic. So far no problem.
    In Message 17 The anger and persecution complex surface.
    LNA, addressing ringo writes:
    1st and second-generation immigrants are the strongest supporters of what you just bashed. (then mentioning Percy and dwise1)...I have been at work all day while posting, and I could not spend too much time on the straw man b.s. from dwise and Percy. They are ignorant amateurs on the immigration issue...
    A clear personal attack. But wait...it gets worse.
    In Message 18 LNA turns his emotional guns on AZPaul3...which is you!
    LNA writes:
    ...You are ignorant of the law.
    You are ignorant of public opinion.
    I was not even expressing my opinion. I was describing objective facts about both current law and public opinion.
    Idiots
    I am assuming that the initial charge of "idiots" was the Americans at large who were "greedy and ignorant" and who challenged immigration policy. I do note, however, that LNA's externalized anger begins to focus on EvC Forum itself and its members specifically.
    LNA writes:
    Be very careful about reading the posts in this thread.
    These idiots have never heard of the PUBLIC CHARGE laws already on the books.
    I can easily tell.
    I am assuming that in this context LNA means the "idiots" participating in this thread and questioning his argument.
    In Message 21 He attacks you, Percy, and dwise1. These are fighting words. Personal attacks. We all have to watch ourselves and respect our fellow forum members. (Yes, I am preaching to my inactive self! )
    In Message 35 LNA turns his wrath towards PaulK.
    LNA writes:
    So you are a very dishonest person, PaulK.
    Get the heck out of a discussion if all you have to bring is lies.
    I could go on and on. This entire discussion has happened in the past 4 days.
    Now its your turn. Why should this slinging mudfest and personal attacks be allowed to continue?

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    Message 1048 of 1049 (888304)
    09-11-2021 3:03 PM
    Reply to: Message 1047 by AZPaul3
    09-11-2021 1:38 PM


    LNA suspension lifted
    Since you and ringo were both ones that LNA targeted, and since Percy seems to have had no problem with him, I will again listen to my EvC friends. Maybe AminPhat also needs to be inactive. I want LNA to watch his words and to also note what his adversaries did for him.

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