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Author Topic:   General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')
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Message 16 of 1043 (595021)
12-06-2010 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by cavediver
12-06-2010 5:30 AM


Re: why the fuck should arach be suspended for not using fucking capitals????
It is just one more step toward the inevitable domination of form over content.

</sarcasm>


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Message 61 of 1043 (595645)
12-09-2010 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by bluegenes
12-09-2010 1:26 PM


Re: Where are all the arachs?
bluegenes writes:
We don't capitalize and use formal grammar when we chat.

Well, there was Victor Borge who did just about everything other than capitalize.


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Message 70 of 1043 (595671)
12-09-2010 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Jon
12-09-2010 7:31 PM


Re: Where are all the arachs?
Jon writes:
Why shouldn't I be?

That was just crashfrog being ornery. I wouldn't worry about it.

When I'm using a plain text editor in a command line window, the two spaces at the end of a sentence still look better.


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Message 93 of 1043 (606345)
02-25-2011 1:01 AM


Suspension of DrJones* is too severe
According to Message 114 in Suspensions and Bannings Part III, DrJones* is suspended for 1 week due to his post at Message 163.

I suspect that the offending post was seen as an insult. But I don't think it was. Rather, I am seeing it as a reductio ad absurdum of the "I maintain that ..." style of argument.

I'll grant that DrJones* chose an example that some would find offensive in his reductio, so I am not objecting to a suspension. But I think 1 week is a bit excessive.


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Message 147 of 1043 (628043)
08-06-2011 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 146 by Butterflytyrant
08-06-2011 11:01 AM


Re: How about mentioning it to me?
Butterflytyrant writes:
First of all, do I get notified of this?

Given that you just quoted the notice, the answer would seem to be "Yes."

Butterflytyrant writes:
Second, apart from the 7 to IamJoseph there are a total of 4 new thread requests. How many is my fair share exactly?

"More than one's fair share" is very common idiomatic speech in English (including the Oz version of English). So why play dumb and pretend that it is a reference to a defined quota, when you know that it is just using a common idiom?

The admins attempt to keep the discussions orderly and rational. It did seem to me that your multiple new topics were excessive, so I was not all surprised when an admin thought you had shown poor judgment.

May I suggest a little self examination as to how you can participate in keeping this a place for thoughtful and rational discussion.


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Message 150 of 1043 (628050)
08-06-2011 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Butterflytyrant
08-06-2011 12:08 PM


Re: How about mentioning it to me?
Butterflytyrant writes:
The notice was in the public record thread. Admin posts only. No PM to me.

Correct.

As far as I know, it has always been the practice to give notifications in public. The PM feature is a relatively new addition to the forum.


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nwr
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Message 153 of 1043 (628064)
08-06-2011 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Butterflytyrant
08-06-2011 2:12 PM


Re: How about mentioning it to me?
Butterflytyrant writes:
You dont think a warning would have been nice?

Adminnemooseus probably assumed that you were a decent and reasonable human with a little common sense.

Butterflytyrant writes:
Or maybe a comment on one of the failed proposed threads that I was doing something wrong?

Adminnemooseus probably assumed that this would be obvious to you, and that you only needed a little prodding to arouse that awareness.

Butterflytyrant writes:
Or maybe a list of the proposed new topic rules that I can get get banned for breaking?

It was probably assumed that you were an actual human, rather than a mindless mechanical robot only able to rigidly follow a prescribed set of rules.

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Message 156 of 1043 (628107)
08-06-2011 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Buzsaw
08-06-2011 5:22 PM


Re: Begging The Question, Why The Exception?
Buzsaw writes:
Which begs the question as to why my banning from all science forums including Biblical accuracy and intelligent design forums was not publically aired in the proper forum, designated for these announcements??

I'm not sure why you bring that up in a reply to me. It is not as if I had anything to do with that posting restriction.

Buzsaw writes:
Imo, it was because I was kicking some butt and raising some troublesome questions in the science fora.

It seems more likely that you were repeatedly posting off-topic.

In any case, wouldn't it be simpler for you to send a PM to Admin, asking for reinstatement of those privileges. That would probably either get you reinstated, or provide you with an explanation as to why not.


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Message 160 of 1043 (628148)
08-07-2011 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by Butterflytyrant
08-06-2011 11:34 PM


Re: How about mentioning it to me?
Butterflytyrant writes:
My point, that you seem to be missing, is that I was banned for not following an unspoken set of rules.

Most of life is spent dealing with unwritten rules.

When one joins a new social group, whether in person or on the Internet, the natural thing to do is to take a little time observing how others engage themselves in the group. And if one accidently commits a social faux pas, the natural thing is to be a tad apologetic and to attempt to learn from that mistake.

Butterflytyrant writes:
My ban has been lifted.

Yes it has, though it was a restriction rather than a ban.

The Admins here usually try to help new members. I suspect that Adminnemooseus thought it best to protect the board by slowing you down a little.

So best wishes for your future participation here. But do try to slow down a bit.


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Message 161 of 1043 (628149)
08-07-2011 12:54 AM
Reply to: Message 159 by Buzsaw
08-07-2011 12:17 AM


Re: Begging The Question, Why The Exception?
Buzsaw writes:
Why did I reply to you? Because it was your statement to which my reply applied.

But it didn't actually apply. My discussion was with Butterflytyrant who, in my opinion, was overreacting to a restriction and just needed to calm down a little. Your post was on a quite different kind of restriction. You could have made it an independent post (the "Gen Reply" button), rather than an inappropriate reply.

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Message 173 of 1043 (629500)
08-18-2011 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by hooah212002
08-18-2011 2:04 AM


Re: Coyote booted from Coffee House
Yes, that admin Adminnemooseus action did seem a bit excessive.

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Message 232 of 1043 (631798)
09-03-2011 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by Buzsaw
09-03-2011 7:57 AM


Re: Any chance we can end the petty vindictive moderation...?
Buzsaw writes:
How pathetic?
How about Buzsaw being banned from Biblical Accuracy threads?

That's an example of poetic justice.

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Message 251 of 1043 (632144)
09-05-2011 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by Buzsaw
09-05-2011 7:51 PM


Re: THANK GOD FOR ADMINNEMOOSEOUS!!
Buzsaw writes:
Jar is the creationist's in your face one or two liner pain in the butt. That's how he racked up thousands more total posts than the rest of us old timers. Fpr example, if he, in his own secularist mindset thinks a creationist haven't responded to his satisfaction he keeps on keeping on repeating the one or two liner questions.

My assessment is that jar is a decent and honest person, who does what he believes is right. His posting practices are just jar being jar.

Buzsaw writes:
If he'd post half or less as much, submitting just the ones of substance, Moose and creationists could tolerate him.

If you and other creationists would post something of substance, then there would be more substance in jar's replies and in the replies of others.

I'm guessing, but I'm inclined to think that moose is a bit of a neat freak, and when things get too far from his idea of a desirable neatness or orderliness, he tries to do something about it. However, it is the nature of internet debating, that it is hard to keep it neat. And sometimes moose goes a bit overboard in his efforts. However, I agree with Omnivorous, that moose puts in a lot of effort and does a lot of good for this board.


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Message 256 of 1043 (633185)
09-12-2011 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 255 by Adminnemooseus
09-12-2011 11:15 PM


Re: Considerations of "The Peanut Gallery"
What do you think?

That bag of peanuts has long since run empty. It's time for a fresh start.

I agree with your suggestion (1). However, (2) is a bad idea. A GD participant should be able to clear up misconceptions that show up in the PG thread, with having to make that part of the GD.

I'm neutral on (3). I don't have a problem with it, but I don't think you need to specify that. Just let the GD take its course.


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Message 335 of 1043 (645969)
01-01-2012 1:16 AM
Reply to: Message 334 by Chuck77
01-01-2012 1:07 AM


I'm sorry but if Buz got suspened for his posts (which he shouldn't have been) then surley Theodoric should be suspened for this Message 190

Buz ignored some moderator warning messages that immediately preceded his post. I don't see the comparison with Theodoric.

I'm not saying that I support the suspension. I'm just disagreeing with your comparison and refraining from second guessing the moderation.


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