General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')

Ahh, so Percy IS a liar. Thanks for clearing that up. Moose is irrational and Percy is the board director. Me trying to plea with him would have been like trying to get Rain Man to get his underwear at Target. In Philadelphia. Percy, being the site director/owner, seems like he superseded the rest of the mod crew. I see now that he does not and that he has no control over any of you. What responses? NO ONE was interested in discussing the original topic. I t was stupid. I shouldn't have even started it in the first place. Yea, cuz you and Moose have a serious Napoleon complex and think you are holier than fucking thou. You, PD, target the atheists and let the religious types do whatever they want. You don't hidee your bias very well. And moose is just completely off the wall. Or something like that.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

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If the rules were applied evenly, there would be no creationists here. And since this site is useless without them, they have to get special treatment in order to keep them around. Percy said so himself, so don't expect it to change. Yet somehow, they still find a way to complain about unfair treatment.

The lengths you go to appease ONE member that shows time and time again that she has no interest in even reading responses except when she deems them rude and to point that out. Time and time again she has openly admitted having difficulty reading the actual, factual and data filled responses, yet here you are, championing her well doing as if she is merely getting picked on for no good reason or getting dogpiled simply for being a creationist. I lament any on the evo side to "debate" Christianity with the ignorance she does for ALL science threads. I'm sure you'd be up their ass quicker than Ted Haggard on a twink selling meth.Rename this place "faith's personal blog" because you certainly don't hold her to any sort of standard.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

Thanks for proving my point, Faith. You could have spent some of this time digesting some of the very accurate information presented to you that you claimed to have difficulty in understanding or even cracked open a geology book past the middle school level. But instead, as if by prophecy, you chose to jump in on a low effort post simply to play the martyr.I got precisely the response I figured I would.

There are forum standards already in place that certain people are free to violate as long as they are in a minority and are "persecuted" enough. Standards like: backing up your claims with actual evidence, making substantial comments/replies that are on topic and productive, not cherry picking comments to pull out insignificant details that serve ONLY to halt discussion while openly ignoring significant parts of that message. Yes, most everyone here is guilty of all those things. However, none of the admin staff make a post to say it is ok for Dr. Adequate to do it or to stop being so mean to edge or coragyps. Moose never posts about how NoNukes should lay off Tangle.But whenever a certain subsection of the user base starts posting incessantly without really thinking or contributing, let alone READING WHAT IS BEING SAID TO THEM, the rest of the use base are the ones at fault. The rest of the user base, the members that take the time to post full fledged, well thought out, reasoned and researched replies, gets admonished for not doing so at the third grade level appropriate for those certain creationists to understand. The standard of evidence is not at all what I was talking about and is a whole other complete topic for debate. What the hell made you think that was what I was referring to?Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

Yes, I agree. But in my opinion, allowing them such leeway seems to be leading some of them on to believe that those tactics are actually valid and acceptable forms of discussion. It's a bit like allowing a young kid to be a little shit because it's cute, then they grow up to be a little shit because no one ever said it wasn't cute anymore. At what point does it actually become patronizing to "openly" admit that we are pandering to creationists and not holding them up to the same standards, thereby degrading the level of discourse since it already starts at such a low level for entry? Is not the point of standards for communication to ensure these debates maintain focus and stick to tangible topics? If there isn't a level playing field, that (quite obviously) leaves far to much room for the discussion to turn into pot shots just to keep it going since the information flow is either one sided or non existent. When one side is held to a rigorous standard that the other side can openly and admittedly ignore and "faithfully" (that is, being well within their own forum standard) act as though your completely credible and well researched evidence is garbage while admitting they didn't even read it or won't take the time to understand some of the "big" words, what is left but snark and more pot shots? How long can that be advantageous to anyone?[shitty life story rant]
Maybe I hold EvC to a higher standard than I should. However, it is thanks to this forum that I am finding college (I am half way through my first ever college class as we speak) much easier because I have 3 essays due in the next month that require sources and source material and it is like second nature (note that I found EvC right around the time I became and atheist and don't really discuss evolution or atheism shit to any high level elsewhere). I've always found this to be the place that, while it is allowed and there is quite a bit of leeway for it, truly shitty comments and general internet trollery regarding these topics is frowned upn and the discussions are high brow, relatively speaking.
[/shitty life story rant](note that I am doing all I can to not single out Faith even though it is painfully obvious that she is the sole purpose for this rant, but others are equally party to it) I didn't mean to single you out, per se, and I actually like that the evo side (religious or non alike) are still open to criticizing one another. It shows the fundies the true nature of the skeptic/scientific mind: question shit regardless of the source. I only mentioned that interaction because it was fresh in my mind.