General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')

What she and the Christian Cult of Ignorance seem to want is a stage where lies, unsupported assertions, innuendo and rumor are given the same weight as things supported by evidence.Sorry but I at least will not let that stand unchallenged.We are not living in the 13th Century anymore.

I'm not particularly objecting to closing the Bible Inerrancy thread (see Message 52), but I would like to say that the demand for scriptural support is not relevant to the topic. The topic is based on a statement on inerrancy that does not rest on that sort of evidentiary scriptural support. It's intended to reflect or declare or explain what the evangelical position is without the expectation of proving anything about it, as a foundational document. While they invite considered corrections from other Christians to anything it declares, they do not invite debate on the established tenets by unbelievers.The reason I opened the thread was that on another thread, where it was off topic, claims had been made that Bible inerrancy is false and merely an invention to support creation science. Since it is a position that is simply declared as the foundational view of the Evangelical branch of the Church I don't present it to be debated but simply to show that Bible inerrancy IS a central doctrine of Christianity, it wasn't invented to support creation science as claimed.So if the thread HAS to be about debate go ahead and shut it down. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'll reopen it after a few hours but I want to encourage you to behave kinder towards others (such as GDR) and stop trying to make the thread all about what you believe as some sort of established fact---when it is not. You know the rules here...this isn't simply your private blog. Forum GuidelinesGranted your opponents are often not any nicer to you....I saw the topic as getting out of hand. Let it cool down a few hours.

I'm sorry Phat, I don't even know what you are talking about. I'd just finished a long answer to Percy in which I answered a whole bunch of his misreadings and as far as I know am not guilty of any kind of personal attack on him or any violation of the3 Forum Guidelines. You accuse me of that but you do not say what I've violated in the Rules.Apparently you really hate it that I know I represent orthodox traditional Christianity and that you certainly don't and GDR doesn't. Jaywill and Iano, who is no longer here, do basically share my views but you don't and neither does GDR and I say so. And you apparently don't like that. But it's a substantive point, it's not just a point of "kindness," it's a matter of truth. Your disagreeing with it is not a justification for shutting me up, and all you are doing is disagreeing with me. Pretty obnoxiously and petulantly in my opinion.How did anything"get out of hand?" Clearly in spite of what you are now saying about others' attitudes toward me you see me as a special offender in all this and you've been on this track for a while now. I don't see this your way and I do not appreciate your opinion about what I am doing. It is none of your business unless you want to identify some specific violation of the EvC rules and call me on them. Name the rule and the violation specifically. Thinking I'm right and you're wrong as far as I know is not a violation of the rules. Except maybe in your head.Otherwise I am arguing the issues as I understand the issues and it has nothing to do with kindness or unkindness. In fact I think what you consider to be kindness is often just capitulating on major issues of truth that no Christian should ever capitulate on. You very proudly say you "aren't afraid" to question Christian beliefs. Well in my opinion that is nothing to be proud of and THAT really rubs ME the wrong way.So I will not subject myself to your personal opinion on this. Behave as an Admin and mind your own business on personal issues. Or hey, suspend me.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No personal attack ? Message 39

I hope no one actually made such a claim. Creation science wasn't invented until around the 1960's, about a half century after Biblical inerrancy. I'm not sure I follow how you or Phat are thinking about the topic of the thread. I took the thread title at its word, that the originator (you) would be defending the proposition that Bible Inerrancy stands against all objections, and I thought the thread was going along those lines to a good enough extent.--Percy

Hi Phat. Personally I don't think that Faith was any harder on me than I was on her. This topic is very important to both of us, and we obviously have very different views on the subject.
Thank you so much for doing the pretty thankless job of being an admin.

If you're happy, I'm happy.

[whine]Just sayin'... I hope Porkncheese's topic gets promoted.
iI also hoped mike the wiz's last topic got promoted, but that didn't happen.
If Abiogenesis Is False Then It Follows Evolution IsMostly because they are topics I like to talk about.
I understand that sometimes their... professionalism... can be questionable. But, that doesn't stop me from wanting to talk about the topics they bring up.
Are they really so bad as to stop public discussion with them, though?Besides, it beats talking to Faith all the time...Moar topics! Moar posts!! Moar!!![/whine]Edited by Stile, : It's "their," not "they're." Damnit, get it right.

Porkncheese is just regurgitating (nasty) religious propaganda. Mike’s post amounted to an obvious logic error - and he runs away quickly anyway.

...but I'm only smart enough to reply to low-hanging fruit...

Well, along with gross mis-characterizations of atheists. Blaming everything Porky thinks is wrong with the world on atheists is disturbing. He doesn't want a discussion or to gain an accurate view, but rather, just a chance to spew nasty fucking bullshit on this forum. I am grateful that his type praying at our children is no longer allowed in our public schools.

Any particular reason my topic proposal is not accepted?Rejection I can handle. Being ignored hurts.

Perhaps the mods all have me set to ignore?I could test the theory by posting insults about Percy's heritage in random threads and see if it provokes any reaction.

Just promoted you. Hope you get some responses.