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Coyote writes:You are forgetting that many of Israel's neighbors have sworn to slaughter the Jews, and "push them into the sea."

Coyote writes:The "push them into the sea" was not a recent quote from Iran.It is an older quote going back at least to 1957, and Abdul Nasser. He also said, in 1967, "We are going to grind them into the ground. We are going to push them into the sea. We're going to wipe out Israel--no one will ever remember them again."This was shortly before the Arab countries launched a war on Israel.

Coyote writes:From Wiki:

Palestinian legislative elections took place on 25 January 2006. Hamas was victorious and Ismail Haniyeh was nominated as Prime Minister on 16 February 2006 and sworn in on 29 March 2006. However, when a Hamas-led government was formed, Israel, the United States, Canada, and the European Union froze all funds to the Palestinian Authority, after Hamas refused to recognize Israel, renounce violence, and agree to past agreements. These countries view Hamas as a terrorist organization.

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In December 2006, Ismail Haniyeh, Prime Minister of the PA, declared that the PA will never recognize Israel: "We will never recognize the usurper Zionist government and will continue our jihad-like movement until the liberation of Jerusalem."

ramoss writes:Well, there is this little thing about Hamas toss rockets into Israel anytime it thinks it can get away with it, and suicide bombers..That sort of get's people cautious you know..

dronester writes:To expand Jar's sentiments Message 299:Which side FULLY controls the other's property, human rights, laws, water supply, health care/hospitals, employment, transportation/movement, to the point of death?Israels or the Palestinians?

dronester writes:Thanks Jar, you have some good points, but most of it is really that simple. For one thing, you only wrote about restriction, I wrote about oppression/torture/murder.For another example, during the the Gaza War during the winter of 2008—2009, when Israel committed the war crime of collective punishment, how did Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon play a significant role?Also during this war crime by Israel which the Israel military willfully targeted women and children, how could the Palestinians play a larger part in determining things like laws, human rights, health care and employment?(Might I add, Obama remained silent about this war atrocity and H. Clinton dumbfoundedly spoke only how Israel needs to protect itself.)We are going off topic, so I'll let you have the last word.Collective punishment - Wikipedia

Taz writes:Jar, while you're right that both sides have had their hands dirtied, Israel remains the only player that is constantly facing a possible extinction. No other nation on Earth that currently has as many enemies who have sworn to its destruction than Israel.I see what they are doing as a natural response to preserving their own existence.