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Author Topic:   Can a valid, supportable reason be offered for deconversion
purpledawn
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Message 30 of 566 (595526)
12-09-2010 6:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dawn Bertot
12-08-2010 3:15 AM


No Purpose
quote:
Can a valid, supportable reason be offered for deconversion
People tend to leave a club when it no longer serves a purpose in their lives.

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purpledawn
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Message 32 of 566 (595543)
12-09-2010 9:52 AM
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12-09-2010 6:56 AM


Re: No Purpose
Your point is what?
You don't feel that a valid reason for deconversion is that the religion no longer serves a purpose for the individual or did you just feel the need to trivialize my comment?

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purpledawn
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Message 44 of 566 (595600)
12-09-2010 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Panda
12-09-2010 10:20 AM


Re: No Purpose
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You described religion as "a club".
That trivialises religion.
My reply was in a similar vein.
So instead of addressing the position you decided to make a useless post. It is better to make a clear point instead of assuming everyone sees things the same way you do. My post made a point whether one considers clubs to be trivial or not.
By your definition religion can be considered a club. There are members and there are rules to follow to become a member. Those who don't conform aren't considered part of the club. They have a common purpose.
I guess I don't consider clubs to be trivial. Maybe since your definition mentioned garden club, which is usually associated with women, you consider them to be trivial.
Do you feel that a valid reason for deconversion is that the religion no longer serves a purpose for the individual?

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purpledawn
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Message 53 of 566 (595717)
12-10-2010 4:22 AM
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12-09-2010 2:04 PM


Re: No Purpose
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If a religion claims to serve a particular purpose and an adherent finds that it doesn't - then yes.
You seem disproportionately upset at having your point commented on.
Bad day at work?
Except that you didn't comment on the point. Your response was based on a word and made no point.
I don't think a religion has to claim to serve any particular purpose to serve a purpose in an individual's life. It may serve a purpose other than what it claims.
Individuals usually have reasons for being part of a group. When those reasons change they tend to leave the group.
My choice of the word club was not a poor choice. I was making a point. Whatever we are a part of usually serves a purpose in our lives. When it no longer serves a purpose, it usually doesn't stay a part of our life.
This thread is about valid, supportable reasons for deconversion. My post showed a reason that is valid for any group an individual belongs to, not just religion. It still has to serve some purpose, real or imagined, in our lives to remain a part of it.
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Why would I consider something is trivial simply because it is associated with women?
Why did you consider it trivial at all? Why bother commenting on the word choice? Why not address the point of the post instead?
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You seem disproportionately upset at having your point commented on.
Why do you assume I'm upset?
I simply pointed out your post was useless concerning the topic. Considering my alter ego, the object is to address the point of the post, not waste a post because you don't like or understand the word choice. You've put more energy towards my choice of words than the point of my post. Enlarge upon the argument presented.
Can you enlarge upon the argument I presented or are you going to continue trying to defend your useless post?

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