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Author Topic:   Matthew 28 versus John 20.
Theodoric
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Message 24 of 89 (595636)
12-09-2010 2:37 PM
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12-09-2010 12:35 AM


Any evidence?
They were written about 40 years after the resurrection so there would still have been eyewitnesses.
Do you have any evidence for either of the assertions in this sentence?

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Message 25 of 89 (595640)
12-09-2010 2:43 PM
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12-09-2010 1:51 PM


Evidence?
There were no doubt other written records around by eyewitnesses, or from the accounts of eye witnesees that the writers would have drawn, (possibly Q), but I'm not inclined to think that they were copied directly from Mark, but who knows.
No doubt? Really? Really?
Any evidence to back this up? Is tradition and your personal beliefs your evidence?

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Message 49 of 89 (595786)
12-10-2010 11:42 AM
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12-10-2010 11:00 AM


Re: Any evidence?
Christianity and it's message of peace and love was established in Rome.
Do you know anything about Roman history? Could you point out some of this peace and love in Rome?
Similar to the peace and love in Tsarist Russia?
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

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Message 53 of 89 (595825)
12-10-2010 3:35 PM
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12-10-2010 2:24 PM


Re: Any evidence?
However the situation was improved and continued to improve from the days that the killing of Christians was a Sunday afternoons entertainment for the wife and kids.
But alas, you have no evidence for this do you? And no evidence that the Romans were more followers of peace and love after Christianity became the state religion, than before they were do you?

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Message 55 of 89 (595832)
12-10-2010 3:56 PM
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12-10-2010 3:47 PM


Re: Any evidence?
Maybe he has evidence for that? We will see. It seems that GDR does not know the difference between actual history and tradition. The christian tradition is rife with propaganda. Maybe he has some evidence to back up this propaganda of "killing of Christians was a Sunday afternoons entertainment for the wife and kids".
If he does I would love to see it.
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Message 59 of 89 (595961)
12-11-2010 3:49 PM
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12-11-2010 2:00 AM


Re: Any evidence?
So nothing to support this.
killing of Christians was a Sunday afternoons entertainment for the wife and kids.
And lets get back to your original assertion that Romans got more peaceful and loving after christianity became the state religion. Still waiting for evidence of this.

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