Colors proof of Divine origin of Bible?

And that doesn't matter at all - there could be a linear correlation if the frequency was in cycles per century. The points here are 1) nothing close to a linear correlation has been shown between word-numbers and frequencies and 2) the Hebrews 2500 years ago knew NOTHING about light having frequency or wavelength, or even dual nature as waves and particles.Hell, they didn't even have VHS tapes for their televisions, which they also didn't have!

Ah. That’ll teach me to assume that the graphics included in a blog are the correct ones. Thanks!

This also touches on that if the word values didn’t fall in terahertz there would be the chance that they’d fall in nanometers, and if not in nanometers, in HSB values, if not HSB, then RGB, if not RGB, Pantone, if not Pantone, Toyo, etc. If the colors used in the Bible didn’t fall in line, then some other set of words. Maybe sky equals blue, or Sun yellow, or blood red.If one looked hard enough I’d bet one might even find a set of words in Psalms that would form the Mangnificat (of course there being many versions just helps make this even easier).

Thanks for the link. So this works only you toss out two of the six days out at start? I also don’t see the justification for linking day one to the formation of galaxies. Imagine the coincidence if Shore goes onto writing a book on Ecclesiastes! Perhaps Ecclesiastes has the same value as Baruch, or Schorr, or Shore, or grandpa, or grandson, or Cantor, or builder.... [/sarcasm]

His stuff about cosmology is too vague to analyze. But if it's up to his usual standard ...

The earlier discussion about CYMK and RGB was interesting.When you look at color pigments, a yellow pigment absorbs blue wavelengths and reflects red and green, cyan absorbs red and reflects green and blue, and magenta absorbs green and reflects blue and red.When you look at white light diffracted by a diffraction grating you see a spectrum. The colors are arranged according to wavelength with red at the longest wavelengths and blue at the shortest and green in the middle. So, red, green and blue are the primary colors of the spectrum. Red is only made from red light and green from green light and blue from blue light, but where the primary colors overlap with their neighbor you get the secondary colors which are made of 2 colors. Yellow falls between red and green and cyan is between green and blue, but what about magenta? It turns out that magenta falls beyond blue because it is made from blue in the first order spectrum and red in the second order spectrum.It turns out the spectrum from a diffraction grating is repeating with each higher order spectrum over-lapping the one before it.I found this out accidentally years ago when I worked in a spectrographic lab where we burned various materials in an electric arc and recorded the spectrum from the arc on glass film plates. One night when I was alone in the lab I put some Kodachrome in the camera and shot some samples and recorded some very cool color spectrums.Something I have always wondered: was the color named after the orange or was the fruit named after the color?

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From The Word Detective

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"Orange" comes originally from the Sanskrit word "naranga" (orange tree), and the story of the word "orange," by the way, is a fascinating one. The fruit itself originated in China, and as it slowly worked its way westward through India to the Middle East and then through Europe to England, the spread of the fruit is perfectly mirrored in the development of words for the color "orange" in every language it encountered.

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

I've assembled the arguments against Shore into a SkepticWiki article. Haim Shore's Gematria.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Great article. Typo here I guess this thread has run its course. I was really hoping Livingstone Morford would post and defend his claim. I guess it shows how willing many fundies are to make extraordinary claims, but run away when actual evidence is presented to counter those claims.I guess the real funny part is even Morfords fellow fundies find a huge problem with this.

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Mr. Morford,

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While I believe that the Bible is the Word of the One True God, I'm not sure how the linked article reveals this fact, especially considering the technical errors and the attempt to use a numerical pattern to support this contention.

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First, the additive primary colors are red, blue, and green, while the subtractive primary colors are cyan, magenta, and yellow. The latter three are also often called the compliments or complimentary colors of the first three. Red, yellow, and blue are often considered an artist's primary colors, but that is more just due to tradition, and they are easier to use.

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I have no idea what the numerical values of the letters of the Hebrew words for the colors mentioned in the Bible, but plotting them so that they produce a straight line is fortuitous indeed. By what criterion are the colors arranged on the lower axis? Increasing number count? Alphabetical color name? Are only the Hebrew consonants used, or are the vowels included?

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I'm very skeptical of revelation that is based on any numbers other than the ones already written in Scripture, such as 6, 7, and 40, which have theological significance. But adding up numbers based on Hebrew or Greek letters, or counting the number of words or whatever in any way implies that revelation is linked to a language or a Bible version. I don' think that is what God has in mind for us. Let's avoid eisigesis.

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SourceEdited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

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But that's why the theological implications are unavoidable!

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More specifically, let us write write g(f) to mean...

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Thanks to Theodoric and Catholic Scientist for pointing out typos.

I figured it out today what about the magenta as green had been gnawing at me. Green and magenta have a relationship, they’re each other’s complementary color. I’m not saying it makes either his data or conclusions correct, it doesn’t. Now in an argument only supported by woo, one could suggest that if you stare at a good solid green long enough, then at a white surface, the white will appear tinted . . . to magenta. Edited by Trae, : No reason given.

It's a MIRACLE!!!11! [/snark]

Good grief, man, do you sleep? The Discussion of Shore's Methods section was esp. fine.Second paragraph of article: "Perhaps because his status".Edited by Omnivorous, : Italicization run amok.Edited by Omnivorous, : No reason given.

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