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Author Topic:   Intelligent (maybe), but far from perfect
Percy
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Message 88 of 91 (464378)
04-25-2008 8:06 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by 1071
04-24-2008 3:32 PM


antiLIE writes:
I believe that the Creator designs things to be imperfect. Why would he make things perfect anyway?
And to who's standards would we judge what 'perfect' is anyway?
This thread's purpose is to address the argument that the perfection of design in the universe is evidence of God. A recent well-publicized argument of this type is that the banana is perfectly designed to fit our hand, be easily opened, and present itself to be eaten (see the Ray Comfort/Kirk Cameron banana video).
The opening post of this thread argues that the world and life are not perfect, and that this is an argument against the existence of God.
You're saying that a creator wouldn't necessarily intend perfection, in which case lack of perfection would not be evidence against God, and I think most people would agree that that's a logical implication of the premise, whether they agree with the premise or not.
Keeping things simple, we can put the possibilities in a matrix:
--------------------------------------------------------------
|                 | Perfection Exists  | Lack of Perfection  |
|-----------------|--------------------|---------------------|
| Perfection      | God exists         | God does not        |
| Means           |                    | exist               |
| God             |                    |                     |
|                 |                    |                     |
| Perfection      | God does not       | Maybe God exists,   |
| Does Not Mean   | exist              | maybe not           |
| God             |                    |                     |
--------------------------------------------------------------
In other words, only if God intends perfection *and* existence is perfect would it be evidence of God. And the interpretation would still be provisional because there is no evidence that God intended perfection, as you pointed out.
So the only conclusion from this simple form of the argument is that the nature of existence is evidence neither for nor against the existence of God.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : Grammar.

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