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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 82 of 103 (243521)
09-14-2005 8:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by PaulK
08-25-2005 2:52 AM


How smart was Davidson that he could get so duped to begin with ?
I suppose you would make the arguments of opponents in this topic if the subject was Antony Flew.
Herepton

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Message 88 of 103 (244677)
09-18-2005 6:10 PM
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09-15-2005 12:49 AM


Herepton:
How smart was Davidson that he could get so duped to begin with ?
Arachnophilia:
well, that's sort of the question we're trying to answer.
Herepton:
No, what I meant to say is that the whole thing was on purpose by Davidson - he was a Darwinist incognito from the start. If he was as claimed - genuinely duped, then he would have never let his story out of the bag. Davidson, (like any person in his position) would not want what happened broadcasted. Because he put the story out I must conclude the entire scenario was planned as some sort of poison the well scheme against DI.
Henry Herepton the Reptile

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Message 89 of 103 (244679)
09-18-2005 6:35 PM
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09-14-2005 9:09 PM


Re: On Flew
You mean the not-so-atheist who not-so-recanted his not-so-atheism in an interview that falsely claimed he had converted to Christianity? That guy?
No, the life-long atheist British philosopher who after carefully reviewing the evidence concluded an IDer must exist. Flew then became a deist.
Do you know what a deist is ?
You know, people on your side make him out to be some kind of atheist rock star, but I had never heard of the guy before the Christians lied about what he had done and said; and even by then he had become a deist, not an atheist.
Was this a late night post or are you convoluted naturally ?
IOW, just because YOU did not know who Flew was somehow negates the conversion ?
Flew was an atheist who became a deist. The only atheist rock star I know of is also the premier atheist evangelist - Richard Dawkins.
I don't give a fuck what the old fart says
Attempt to deflect away from evidence via reliance on an accepted negative cultural stereotype that octagenarians (old people) suddenly do not know what they are talking about when they disagree with you. IOW, ad hom postulated, caused by the inability to deal with the facts that effected the conversion.
You are a spoiled brat coddled by the Admins. Writing such a blatant ad hom insult justifies my observation.
I don't need someone else to tell me why I'm an atheist, and what someone else believes has no bearing on what conclusions I come to. I'm an atheist because that's the inescapable intellectual conclusion from the evidence, not because some limey geezer does or does not agree.
Atheism is not supported by any facts. It is a psychological state that has an almost incurable aversion to having a Boss. The intense desire caused by the psychosis provides the ends to justify the means.
Henry Herepton the Reptile
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Message 92 of 103 (244685)
09-18-2005 7:02 PM
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09-18-2005 6:50 PM


So it wasn't the Discover Institute that misrepresented the statement as actual support for Intelligent Design and put it on their website as such, it was Davidson who misrepresented his postion on evolution ...
Even though this statement (the one in question eh?):
You appear confused about the present issue. I was attempting to point out that Davidson is actually very smart and not dumb enough to be duped. The entire incident was premeditated by Davidson, because if it was as he says, then he would never have made the story public.
Henry Herepton the Reptile

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Message 93 of 103 (244686)
09-18-2005 7:09 PM
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09-18-2005 6:59 PM


It seems clear that Flew WAS duped.
Then apply my previous observations about Davidson to Flew.
Either way your view makes life-long atheists/Darwinists very dumb or very wicked.
Henry Herepton the Reptile
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