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purpledawn
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Message 18 of 38 (600371)
01-14-2011 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by iano
01-12-2011 8:20 AM


Selfishness Within Marriage
quote:
I've given you a general principle involving two elements:
- sin tends towards selfishness and love towards selflessness.
- God-in-your-life = an agency who works at reducing your sin > 0
Without having to know a single thing about your marriage I can say that your marriage would be better with God in it. He would be dealing with yours and hers sin. I take it you would agree that a marriage with less selfishness would be an improved marriage?
The only counter to this would be your claim that you/she aren't in any way selfish within your marriage. That you/she have selfishness compressed down to being resolved in "micro-seconds". I don't believe that for one micro-second myself, but if that's your position...
I disagree with your equation and people can reduce the "sin" in their life without turning to God.
Why don't you believe that a couple doesn't fight or that disagreements can be resolved in microseconds?
My husband and I have been married for 25 years and we don't fight. If we have disagreements, they are quickly resolved. I can count on one hand the number of serious disagreements we've had in 25 years and I don't have to use all the fingers.
Justified anger is not a sin and romantic love is different than agape love.
Please give examples of selfishness within a marriage that would be considered a sin.
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Thank you. When faced with someone who says there is but trace elements of selfishness within the relationship, no struggles to speak of, no areas of core disagreement .. one is inclined to suspect that relationship to be in the very early "fallen in love" stage. The stage where her poo doesn't smell.
I think 25 years puts me past that point.
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That's why I said your marriage appeared to be one in a million. Not that I'd be as negative as you. It's just that the experienced couples I talk to, who have good marriages and who love each other deeply, say that struggle is part and parcel with it.
There are many struggles to deal with in life and marriage, but they aren't necessarily against each other.

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purpledawn
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Posts: 4453
From: Indiana
Joined: 04-25-2004


Message 19 of 38 (600372)
01-14-2011 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
01-06-2011 12:00 PM


Eros vs Agape
Which kind of love are you talking about?
3 Kinds of Love
Agape; is the third and most important kind of love their is. It's the love that God commands us to have for one another. Its God's own personal way of loving us. It's not determined by feelings, its more like a set of actions or behaviors. You don't have to feel it to give it. When I say this I mean, its possible to not feel anything and be able to "love" in this sense. Sometimes the feelings follow. Its the kind of love that the bible is talking about in 1 Corinthians...
1 Corinthians 13:4-8 says; Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails....
The NT doesn't get into romantic love, but deals mostly with ethics and friendship.

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