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Hyroglyphx
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Message 121 of 189 (600416)
01-14-2011 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Coyote
01-10-2011 9:39 PM


Re: How can you ignore all of this?
No one is ignoring that filth, Coyote, but you can find extremists within any religion. Hindu's aren't exactly the model for extremism, and yet it was a Hindu extremist who assassinated Ghandi.
I think the OP is simply stating that we can't make blanket statements, we have to look at it on a case-by-case basis.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 122 of 189 (600420)
01-14-2011 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by ApostateAbe
01-14-2011 1:19 AM


Absolutely. If all Muslims believed that Islam is a religion of peace and they acted accordingly, then Islam would be a religion of peace. The majority really do believe that Islam is a religion of peace, and they are against violence. The main problem seems to be that all of them encourage absolute belief in the Koran, which is filled with the encouragement of violence and hatred. Muslims live in the modern time, and they try to believe holy scriptures from a medieval time period. This means that anyone who could be inclined to violence will find all the justification and moral support they need in the Koran.
The problem is that radical madrassas make it easy to use the Qur'an and/or Sura, combined with current events involving Muslims and non-muslims, to manipulate the minds of angry and impressionable teens.
But the same kind of rhetoric could be used against Muslims too. It's easy for a pastor on the pulpit, or even Dawkins at a public speaking engagement, to make the claim that Islam inherently leads to violence.
And while that is not necessarily a fabrication, it is a little distorted. If even 1% of the entire Muslim population is extremist, that still leaves 10 million crazed Muslims looking to murder anyone who does not share their ideological beliefs. That still doesn't negate the fact that it's still, fractionally, a low percentage of extremists in the overall population.
Conversely, we see the same war of attrition on this side of the pond too, with wars being waged that are interpreted by peaceable Muslims as naked aggression.
The optimal solution for America is to simply not intervene in the affairs of the Muslim world. This also means no tangling alliances with Israel.
As Jefferson rightly stated, "Commerce with, alliances with none." This philosophy seems to have served Switzerland very well. They're have not had to fight a war since 1815, which is unprecedented.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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