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Author Topic:   The evolution of hell: how rhetoric changes religion
bluescat48
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Message 5 of 66 (600847)
01-17-2011 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by ApostateAbe
01-17-2011 10:52 AM


Re: What the Hell?
IMHO, hell, like heaven and any other repository of the hypothetical "soul," is nothing more than a human invention, from imagination with as much validity as the "6 day creation" & the "global flood," that is, none.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 9 of 66 (600899)
01-17-2011 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Rrhain
01-17-2011 4:18 PM


Thanks Rrhain, you beat me to the punch. I fully agree.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 11 of 66 (600921)
01-17-2011 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by ApostateAbe
01-17-2011 6:46 PM


Atheists did exist before Darwin, but they were not nearly as many, not nearly as well known, and not nearly as influential as until after Darwin.

I don't think there were any less than then now % wise, but like homosexuals in the 1950s, most Atheists back in Darwin's time were in the "Closet."


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 25 of 66 (600981)
01-18-2011 12:59 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by ApostateAbe
01-17-2011 11:46 PM


Re: Also...
There is still no totally accepted theory of the beginning of life and evolution, only explains changes after that first life existed. Whats more not only Atheists, Agnostics & Deists accept evolution but many Theists accept the ToE. Explain how this can occur if Evolution and Atheism are directly related.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 32 of 66 (601063)
01-18-2011 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by ApostateAbe
01-18-2011 9:41 AM


Re: Also...
Why is it harmful to religion, unless you mean fundamentalism?

Whether there is a god, gods or no gods is irrelevant to the ToE.

Whether it is directed or not has no bearing on the ToE.

If a person want to imply that a god directed evolution so be it.

The point can also be said for other science disciplines particularly Physics, Chemistry & Geology that add to the coming out of Atheists or the conversion from theism to Deism, Agnosticism & Atheism.

OFF TOPIC - Please Do Not Respond to this message by continuing in this vein.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 34 of 66 (601101)
01-18-2011 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by ApostateAbe
01-18-2011 5:15 PM


Re: Also...
Still how is it harmful to moderate theists?

Atheists make up a very small percentage of those who accept evolution.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 47 of 66 (601183)
01-19-2011 2:17 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by ApostateAbe
01-18-2011 11:12 PM


Re: keeping score
It may not have been your intention but this is the line that brings it up from your OP
At the end of the 19th century, something happened. Darwin's theory allowed atheism to become a reasonable thing to believe.

That is the connection which led to the Atheism off topic threads.

I have this odd thing about answering questions running from the last entry on a topic and working backwards, quite often not even seeing what the title of the topic is.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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