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Author Topic:   ID and the bias inherent in human nature
RAZD
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Message 60 of 105 (208867)
05-16-2005 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Limbo
04-27-2005 6:28 PM


limbo writes:
ID is still very young. It needs time (decades, maybe) to flesh itself out...to work out the kinks...to organize.
this particular whine is just more evidence of why it should not be taught UNTIL it is developed. you don't teach half vast concepts.
I would like to see ID have a chance to grow and adapt. If the "ID movement" were a movie, and we were all watching it together in a theatre, I would say we are still in the opening credits. And I would say to the hecklers in the audience: be quiet, watch the movie, and see what happens.
My impression is that the opening credits have finished and the screen has gone white because there is no movie or the film broke and the projectionist is asleep.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
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RAZD
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Message 104 of 105 (209496)
05-18-2005 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by Limbo
05-17-2005 2:00 AM


Re: And now for something completely different
creationism in it's most simplistic meaning is the belief that the universe was created. some stop there, while others believe that life was created. some stop there while others believe that specific forms of life were created.
evolution is the study in the changes in species over time. there is no contradiction between that study and any of the above beliefs.
it is only when you get to a very narrow concept of creation according to a very specific {path\format} that faith can have a conflict.
the evidence that the conflict only occurs for a very small subset of the group {religious beliefs} would indicate that the problem is not between evolution and {faiths} but between the small subset and reality.
this is no different than the {extreme minority} belief in a flat earth versus the reality of the global earth spinning an elliptical orbit around a rather unremarkable star in a distant arm of a relatively unspectacular galaxy.
or the {minority} belief in a young earth versus the reality of the earth being composed of recycled debris of old stars that coalesced into a planet some 4.55 billion years ago.
there are also many people of faith who have no problems with these facts and their faith, ergo the problem is not the facts.
enjoy.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD
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Message 105 of 105 (209500)
05-18-2005 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Limbo
05-17-2005 7:10 PM


Re: Hatred of Religion ?
Limbo writes:
What I should have said was, "The only thing binding them together is a shared political agenda."
you mean the agenda shared by democrats, republicans and independents?

we are limited in our ability to understand
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RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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