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Message 123 of 536 (605901)
02-22-2011 5:36 PM


naturally supernatural
So EVC now has a theory using inductive reasoning to debunk the supernatural, by infering anything supernatural is a product of the human imagination and therefore does not exist.
Going on to define the supernatual as not derived from the natural world and inexplicable.
By defining the supernatural as not being natural, by default the supernatural does not exist by this definition. Since the very word Supernatural means just that.
But if the supernatural is a product of the human imagination then it is a natural part of the universe, since the human mind is also a natural part of the universe.
The human mind also derives other inexplicible concepts such as ideas. Is an idea real? Does it exist?
Just a thought.

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Message 364 of 536 (611006)
04-04-2011 4:24 PM


It seems to me the supernatural is "supra" above, beyond natural laws. Events or accounts or phenomenon or creatures or whatever are described supernatural if they are inofthemselves as Straggler says..."inexplicable". When science catches up' manytimes the once thought supernatural is explained scientifically. We need words that trancend the natural laws in order to decribe that which does not ascribe to those said laws. This is why intitally I took issue with trying to apply scientific principals to the supernatural which by it's very description would prove beyond scientific probing. As science does require some testable reality to bear out its theories. Otherwise it is unevidenced. The effects of light propagating through a unevidenced supernatural medium called ether was deems incorrect by Dr. Einstien's theories, that where eventually confirmed by observation. It is those things that are untestable, unconfirmable and beyond the realms of nature and natural law that I call supernatual, like ether, these are usually things we fill in the gaps of our knowlege with. If it happens in nature it is not supernatural. Can the supernatural exist in a universe that manifest itself according to physics? If the answer is yes, then the next question would be how could it ever be evidenced? How could it ever be confirmed? If by it's very nature it defys the very laws we use to make such distictions.

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