God's Place In Evolution

Sea fossils are everywhere in the US that I've been, from Ca To the heights of the Wind River Mountain Range in Wy to SC, to NY They're pretty much global.As for the dating, you know my arguments about that. I don't buy the conventional and you don't buy the Biblical, so no use in debating that.As the link attests, imo, in time I will be vindicated and you will be befuddled. We'll both meet our designer/creator, by and by. Edited by Buzsaw, : Hit submit prematurely.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

LoL. The skeptics who laughed at Noah for predicting the flood as the first rain & building the monster ark are all dead. The skeptics who laugh today, alleging Noah didn't do it and that what's soon predicted ahead for our times is mythical, will see end time predictions continuing to escalate, emerging to fruition, as the wrath cup of Jehovah spills out upon planet earth.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Your arguements? you mean the part where you wave your hand and claim that the dating is wrong but are totally incapable of showing how and why it is? I have repeatedly asked you to show how the various dating methods are wrong and yet still match up and you have repeatedly failed to show anything even remotely resembling evidence to back up your bullshit.

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It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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Just for the record, the "skeptics who laughed at Noah" are made up. There's no mention of any such thing in the Biblical record.

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"

Buz, you are showing yourself to be incapable of learning.You have made your mind up and no amount of evidence will persuade you to the contrary.What a waste of a mind!And what a waste of time trying to show you the evidence you clearly want to deny--no matter what.This is worse than ignorance, as ignorance can be cured if the person is willing to learn. You are clearly unwilling.Again, what a waste of a mind.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Sure they are do to plate tectonics. Places that were under the sea millions of years ago now on mountain tops so what. If they were put thewir by your mythological flood there would be humans, trilobites, sharks, ammonites, and placoderm fishes all mixed together. There aren't.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

You sure find imaginary genocide amusing.Of course, so do I, but it amuses me because it's imaginary; whereas it appears to tickle you because it's genocide.

The map is not the territory. The Earth itself shows no record of a recent global flood. You know, that planet where this flood supposedly occurred? This has been known since the early 1800's. You are nearly 200 years behind the curve.

And then those skeptics drilled out ice cores from the Antarctic and Greenland ice shields and found no record of a flood in the past 100,000 years. Skeptics win.

How do plate tectonics explain all of the inland sea fossils in non-mountainous regions?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

That is, if Robert Ballard's guess is correct, that evidence of civilization 300 ft down in the Black Sea evidences a local flood or a global flood. Methinks it's just one more corroborative evidence of the Biblical Noaic global flood.

What skeptics?The Biblical Flood has been refuted, it simply never happened and that has been pointed out to you many, many times. Perhaps you forgot though so I will refresh your memory.

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Lol, Jar. Your alleged genetic silver bullet (quote below from flood thread) doesn't shoot down the flood.

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Of course it does Buz. Have you ever read the Bible?

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In the version of the myth found in Genesis 6 God instructs Noah to:

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19 You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you. 20 Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive. 21 You are to take every kind of food that is to be eaten and store it away as food for you and for them."

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In the version of the myth found in Genesis 7 we see similar (close but not the same) instructions:

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2 Take with you seven of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth.

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We also find similar explanations of what will be destroyed in Genesis 6 it says:

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7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earthmen and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the airfor I am grieved that I have made them."

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and in Genesis 7:

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4 Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made."

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In both myths lots of critters get killed, in the myth found in Genesis 6 it seems to be talking about land animals and birds while the myth found in Genesis 7 goes even further and wipes out all living things.

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If we play mix and match and take the best scenario from each of the myths we might be able to claim that only the birds and land animals were wiped out based on the passage from the Genesis 6 story and that we have the larger saved population found in Genesis 7.

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Based on that mix and match game set we have a situation where all land animals and birds found today will be descended from a population that consisted of at most fourteen critters (seven pairs of clean animals and birds) and at worst case four critters (two pair of unclean animals).

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Now that is what I would call a real bottleneck.

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We know we can see bottlenecks in the genetic record; a great example is the one in Cheetahs but we even see them in the human genome and most other species.

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If the flood actually happened we would see a bottleneck in EVERY species of animal living on the land and EVERY bird and EVERY one of the bottlenecks show up in the SAME historical time period.

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Talk about a big RED flag.

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That bottleneck signature would be something every geneticists in the world would see. It would be like a neon sign, Broadway at midnight on New Years Eve. It would be something even a blind geneticist could see.

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So it seems to me to be a very simple test that will support or refute the Flood.

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If that genetic marker is there in EVERY species living on land or bird of the air, then there is support for the flood. It does not prove the flood happened but it would be very strong support.

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If on the other hand that genetic marker is NOT there, then the Flood is refuted.

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That genetic marker is NOT there.

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The Biblical Flood has been refuted.

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You are assuming a relative uniformity which necessarily assumes the impossibility of a global flood.

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That of course is simply untrue. Nothing in my Genetic Marker test assumes uniformity. The only assumptions are that the Bible accurately describes what the Biblical flood would have been like.

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And the evidence shows that the Biblical Flood never happened.

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Fact.

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from Message 28.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Now, Dr Adequate, you're being very disingenuous with me, falsely implicating me for ascribing to human genocide. As a matter of fact, I pray earnestly and consistently for you all, my friends, that the scales will fall off your eyes so as for you to see the light before it's too late for your eternal souls.The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of wisdom, according to wise King Solomon.If Jehovah be supreme majesty of the Universe, he is to be feared and loved, simultaneously; feared because of his wrath upon his adversaries and loved because of his loving care, salvation and regard towards those who acknowledge him.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

And since that won't happen, this proves prayer doesn't work. What a dick. Whatever happened to "love thine enemies"? He doesn't practice what he preaches, eh?

Jar, your message delves into a new topic so as to derail this thread. I don't have the time to debate the flood in debth. My time on line is too limited to go into in depth debate in multiple directions.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.