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dogrelata
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Message 31 of 219 (482362)
09-16-2008 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by BVZ
09-16-2008 1:31 AM


The god thingy
BVZ writes:

Excelent work! So... how do I figure our if my rock (I think I will name him Stumpie) is 'the result of informed and reasoned decisions'? It refuses to tell me, no matter how many times I ask!

Okay, when the IDers talk about an intelligent designer, they have a specific IDer in mind; even though they are loath to say so. This IDer is some kind of god thingy that goes around creating universes and such like ‘just because it can’. Furthermore, some IDers, when they’ve not got their ID hat on, claim to have a personal relationship with the god thingy – even to the point where it communicates with them in some cases.

On a couple of other threads I have suggested that IDers just ask the god thingy how it formulated its design, etc, but I’m still waiting for them to get back to me. I’m thinking there may be some intellectual property issues here – you know the sort of thing, the god thingy has failed to gain copyright protection or a full patent for the design. You know what these creative types can be like – full of innovative flair but short on practical considerations like protecting the design! Of course it could be something a lot more mundane – the god thingy’s dog may have eaten the design spec and the god thingy has forgotten how it did it…we’ve all been there.

So I’m thinking you need to keep working away at Stumpie, it may be our best hope of unravelling the mystery of design.

Good luck (and welcome to EvC).


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dogrelata
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Message 34 of 219 (482371)
09-16-2008 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by kuresu
09-16-2008 9:01 AM


Re: The god thingy
BVZ writes:

Maybe Stumpie is the only thing in the universe that is NOT designed.... maybe Stumpie IS the designer.

I mean... he is a rock that whispers things to me. He MUST be special.

I think you may be on to something here.

You need to be careful though…if Stumpie gets around to asking you for money, he is probably no more than another TV evangelist.


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dogrelata
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Message 66 of 219 (485584)
10-09-2008 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Bio-molecularTony
10-08-2008 10:29 PM


Re: Designer Hand made VS Designed processes
Tony writes:

Life is a cleverly designed optical/intellectual illusion of what real life would look like it such a thing did really exist - though is does not - but an artificial one was designed to look as if it were that real thing - that can not really exist any way.

Let’s substitute a couple of words here and see what we get…

ID is a cleverly designed optical/intellectual illusion of what a god would look like if such a thing did really exist - though it does not - but an artificial one was designed to look as if it were that real thing - that can not really exist any way.

On the other hand, a god who has to fake life because it can’t create the real thing is surely not worthy of the title of intelligent designer in the first place…


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dogrelata
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Message 69 of 219 (485613)
10-10-2008 6:34 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Bio-molecularTony
10-09-2008 7:11 PM


Re: Designer Hand made VS Designed processes
Tony writes:

The bible also speaks of spirit creatures as well. They do not die as we do. We are biodegradable they are not.

…and The Lord Of The Rings and the Harry Potter series have a great deal to say about wizards and sorcery – but what has any of that got to do with science?


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