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Bio-molecularTony
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Message 72 of 219 (486092)
10-15-2008 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by BVZ
10-13-2008 1:02 AM


Re: Does God design rocks - NO - Not complex as life is
TONY: If we were in an art class and the students were asked to create a "natural rock" as best they could. The teacher could grade the students on the quality of there work that might fool the average person.
In the other end, scientists could find synthetic rocks what were made to look real but not quiet perfect in looking natural in all ways. They could grade the intelligence or level of artistry of the person making the synthetic rocks to coming close to the real natural thing.
As I have said before, God does not make rocks so they are all naturally created. Unless man makes a synthetic rock, you won't find any.
Batteries are all made, manufactured. They all can be graded as to the skill of the maker. Whether by large manufacturing company or just a backyard garage mechanic. There are no naturally occurring batteries in nature - so all are created with different levels of skill.
What is possible and not possible is you base line - starting point and grading the skill goes up from there.

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Bio-molecularTony
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Message 76 of 219 (486121)
10-16-2008 6:59 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by ikabod
10-16-2008 3:52 AM


Re: Does God design rocks - NO - Not complex as life is
ikabod: so rocks are independant of god ..ok so which can first god or rocks ...
TONY: Already answered this. God created matter out of his energy, and created what we think of as "the natural" process the systems of weather changes, etc. that can form rocks.
Example: God does not create babies, for he created the system "processes" what will do it for him. God does not create snowflakes, just the weather system processes that form them themselves. So it is with most things like rocks. Once the "machinery" for the process was in place the action became automatic, functioning based on the designed parameters of the system (like carbon cycle, water cycle, etc.)
These process system cycles are not really natural. They needed to be setup, designed, started from scratch, that is provable. Matter is not natural and needed to be created, which rocks are made of.
So if you go deep enough, rocks are the product of design in some way or another. Just not directly into a rock in itself.
I hope this answers the question now!!!!

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