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Author Topic:   American Budget Cuts
nwr
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Message 48 of 350 (605781)
02-22-2011 1:08 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Phage0070
02-22-2011 12:07 AM


Re: Budget Cuts & Reality
Phage0070 writes:
Historically the public sector is significantly more wasteful than the private sector, due to the lack of any meaningful competition.
I am not convinced that is true.
The inefficiencies of government are in public, where they are reported on by the press. The inefficiencies of the private sector are hidden in back rooms.
I'm remembering back to when I was in Australia, before coming to the US for grad school. The political right in Australia used to say the same things about government inefficiency. And they pointed to the railroads as an example of this inefficiency. So I arrived in the US, where I got to ride on the bankrupt New Haven railroad. The railroads in the US were in the private sector, and they were in as much trouble (perhaps more trouble) as the railroads in Australia.
Here are three beliefs that we hear from the right:
  • Evolution is impossible. It requires intelligent design. (The say this when talking about biology);
  • Intelligent design is impossible. It can only work by evolutionary processes. (They say this about the economy);
  • Evolution is impossible. It requires intelligent design. (They say this when talking about open source software vs. commercial software).

Jesus was a liberal hippie

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nwr
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Message 50 of 350 (605784)
02-22-2011 2:07 AM
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02-22-2011 1:44 AM


Re: Budget Cuts & Reality
Phage0070 writes:
Imagine two companies competing for the widget market, each making a widget ...
That's a nice little theoretical model. However, I have worked in the private sector and seen gross inefficiencies. I have done business with the private sector (my ISP, for example) and I see gross inefficiencies.

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nwr
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Message 216 of 350 (606664)
02-27-2011 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by Phat
02-27-2011 3:54 PM


Re: Is there any other ways to get out of debt?
Phat writes:
Also...who do we owe the national debt to?
We owe part of it to future social security recipients, and that probably includes you.
Phat writes:
Who benefits from us paying it back?
You are one of those who benefit.

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