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Theodoric
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Message 258 of 377 (608422)
03-10-2011 9:38 AM
Reply to: Message 255 by Percy
03-10-2011 7:00 AM


John Woodmorappe
Why anyone would quote John Woodmorappe is beyond me. The guy has been refuted countless times and I wonder if the creo's know that this is just a pen name for high school biology teacher Jan Peczkis.
He has also been shown to be deceitful and dishonest.
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A creationist named John Woodmorappe has been caught quoting himself. In a "Revolution Against Evolution" Article entitled "A Hands-on Science Activity that Demonstrates the Atheism and Nihilism of Evolution" He states the following:
"Illinois high school science teacher Jan Peczkis writes: The misconception that evolution works towards a pre-determined goal is held by many high school and college students. This is understandable because evolution is an abstract and generally non-observable phenomenon, and living things do seem well-designed for their environments."
He forgot to mention something: He is Jan Peczkis. He quoted himself under his real name (J.W. is his pen name). Why? (For proof see the CreationWiki profile of J.W.)
The list goes on. In an exchange with Talk Origins author Steven Schimmrich, he states,
I find it amusing to see members of Schimmrich's group complain about the intensity of my responses in view of the scurrility of their own remarks (see below). Then again, perhaps some of these people are bullies/crybabies combined: they love to punch others but run home to mama in tears if someone punches them back. And everyone should know by now that I don't put up with any crap from anti-Creationists.
He goes on to compare his debate opponent to the Nazis... Several Times.
Besides the problems with his character, he's also a very illogical person. He is the creationist who proposed Tectonically Associated Biological Provinces (TABs) to explain the order of the fossil record. My understanding is that he believes different geologic rocks represent different ecosystems, which sank in to the earth and were stacked on top of one another like pancakes. Its far out, and not in a cool 70's-ish way. The problem with it is that it does not explain just why the layers on top contain fossils most similar to today's life. I mean, why can't dinosaurs be found on top and human beings in the middle?
Last, but not least, No Answers in Genesis has posted a devastating critique of his work on radiometric dating and more. It is well worth checking out.
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Theodoric
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Message 278 of 377 (608488)
03-10-2011 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by slevesque
03-10-2011 3:20 PM


Re: John Woodmorappe-
But I didn't quote Woodmorappe, I just used the same Koch quote he used.
And you might have noticed I never accused you of quoting him. As a matter of fact my post was not in response to you or had anything to do with your post.
And besides, I agree that I don't personnally like him as a creationist, but your whole post is just a big ad hominem, even if it is/were true.
Ad hominem? He has been refuted numerous times. I even gave examples of his deceit.
His claims still can be evaluated on their own merits.
His claims have been repeatedly shown to have no merit. Even you could do some basic research and see that.

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